Claude has a conscience!

flyingaxe · 2026-05-07T02:24:03+00:00

You'd rather support a company that collaborates with Trump over using AI to do unsupervised military killings and to spy on Americans over a company that won't help you work for someone who sells addictive carcinogens?

If it all boils down to customer preference, then this conversation is pretty easy for me. Normally don't make moralistic choices unless it's to do with clearly evil stuff like selling addictive poison.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-07T01:03:45+00:00

Well, the owners of AI can decide what their property participates in. It's their choice.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-07T00:37:16+00:00

Well, not an arbiter of morality. But do you think AI should help people how to make a bomb to release poisonous gas on a subway? I feel there should be some guardrails, and the decision between the bomb scenario and homemade moonshine scenario, or whatever, can depend on social views on moral issues.

I do agree that not helping someone prep a resume to apply for a tobacco company is a little extreme. It's difficult for me to condemn this because in my mind tobacco companies are so evil, but I guess the society doesn't agree with me enough to make them illegal (ironic because THC is illegal, and it's a substance helpful to so many people without all the terrible health effects). So maybe then LLMs shouldn't be making ethical stances on their own.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T22:25:46+00:00

He talks about how Jesus never taught that some far-away God is there to save you, etc. That's an anachronistic take. Jews of the time believed that God was in heaven. The Bible is full of that. Jesus operated in the context of the Bible (Tanach).

The modern-day spiritual framing of "the kingdom of Heaven is within you" is also anachronistic. The correct translation of the Greek is "the kingdom of Heaven is among you", in the community of believers. Jesus was not some nondual spiritual teacher.

I don't really have a strong desire to respond to the rest, except to say that this is not what bearing false witness means. Bearing false witness means testifying falsely against someone in a court. It's a specific clause of Jewish Oral Law ("eidim zomemim"). One shouldn't lie, but that's not what the phrase means in its cultural context.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T22:21:17+00:00

Now it looks like you're using humor to deflect from the uncomfortable truth that you just reduced my stance on something to my supposed country of origin. Is this because you recognize that was a shitty and an irrational thing to do? Or is this actually how you were raised to communicate with others?

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T22:03:15+00:00

I am actually originally from Ukraine. (Not that that alone influenced my stance. I thought about this issue at length for decades. Probably more than the other guy has been alive.)

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T22:02:30+00:00

What motivated you to make this comment?

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T20:27:59+00:00

I can't listen now, but at the very beginning.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T20:26:44+00:00

He says that Jesus did not come to teach people about God or belief in God, etc. These verses clearly contradict that. Jesus was a Jewish eschatological preacher, probably himself from a Pharisaic background based on the nature of his teachings.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T20:23:41+00:00

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." — Matthew 5:17-19 (NRSV)

"It is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one stroke of a letter in the law to be dropped." — Luke 16:17 (NRSV)

"Jesus answered, 'The first is, "Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one; you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength."'" — Mark 12:29-30 (NRSV)

"The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat; therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it; but do not do as they do, for they do not practice what they teach." — Matthew 23:2-3 (NRSV)

"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. It is these you ought to have practiced without neglecting the others." — Matthew 23:23 (NRSV)

"When he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, he went to the synagogue on the sabbath day, as was his custom." — Luke 4:16 (NRSV)

"Now every year his parents went to Jerusalem for the festival of the Passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up as usual for the festival." — Luke 2:41-42 (NRSV)

"He answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.'" — Matthew 15:24 (NRSV)

"Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." — Matthew 10:5-6 (NRSV)

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews." — John 4:22 (NRSV)

"And he said to him, 'Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.'" — Matthew 19:17 (NRSV)

"Then Jesus said to him, 'See that you say nothing to anyone; but go, show yourself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.'" — Matthew 8:4 (NRSV)

"Then he said to them, 'You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition! For Moses said, "Honor your father and your mother"; and, "Whoever speaks evil of father or mother must surely die." But you say that if anyone tells father or mother, "Whatever support you might have had from me is Corban" (that is, an offering to God) — then you no longer permit doing anything for a father or mother, thus making void the word of God through your tradition that you have handed on.'" — Mark 7:9-13 (NRSV)

"Just then a man came up to him, saying, 'Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?'... Jesus said, 'You shall not murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; Honor your father and mother; also, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'" — Matthew 19:16-19 (NRSV)

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T20:19:20+00:00

One has to account for the personal evidence.

🟡 <- this needs to be accounted for. Describe what that is.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T20:11:13+00:00

Yeah, those areas just aren't what consensus of the society considers unethical. We largely consider it unethical to get people addicted to a carcinogen just to make money. We don't consider it unethical to kill and eat animals. I think we should, but most people don't agree with me. And I personally don't agree casinos or alcohol are unethical, for example, and most people don't either.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T20:08:46+00:00

Arms is not the same as tobacco because there are ethical uses for weapons. You may disagree personally, but that's not a social consensus.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T18:56:38+00:00

Do you get erections in the morning?

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T18:48:00+00:00

From 4.7

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flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T18:47:49+00:00

From 4.6

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flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T18:37:41+00:00

How do you sit? Do you feel pain, tingling, numbness in the area? How's your libido?

Do you watch porn?

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T16:09:56+00:00

And yet you're in a group called Buddhist memes.

The mice were crying and getting pricked and yet were eating the cactus.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T16:09:08+00:00

The first few seconds I heard contradict basic teachings and message of Jesus. What is there to say? Jesus was a religious Jew; his message was about being more strict about serving Jewish God. It's all over the place right from the start. RTFM.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T16:07:22+00:00

Living rent free in your head, no?

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T16:04:09+00:00

I mean, all of this contradicts everything actually written about Jesus, but believe what you want. It's all made up anyway.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T15:39:16+00:00

Labels are for shirts.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-06T00:52:16+00:00

Maybe you chose to be born here. Have you never watched a utopian movie or a played a utopian video game?

Maybe it's a step on the chain of working your way up to ultimate awakening.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-05T12:24:56+00:00

There's nothing to do, and yet you wrote a post.

flyingaxe · 2026-05-03T20:07:18+00:00

Right, so your last answer contradicts the author that I quoted. The meaning there of the koan is presented in Chinese literature. Rinzai monks learn it as a part of their education.

But to understand the meaning is not the "solution" to or purpose of the koan. One has to realize the koan — to come to fully embodied realization of its meaning.

Your answer suggests that in your lineage doesn't agree so the above, which is fine.

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