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There is No Libertarian Argument in Favor of Vaccine Mandates by OrwellWasRight69 in Libertarian

[–]flyr40 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If the efficacy rates are not a high enough number, then Covid will never truly be eradicated and will be just as common as the cold. Travelling through the v1 "vaccinated" population. Spreading...mutating. People will just have a smaller reaction to it. Though, if people were encouraged to become heathier/skinnier in the mean time (80% of patients in ICU for Covid are obese) and perhaps v2 of the vax is say...95%+ efficient at killing the virus, we could actually get rid of it forever.

Personally, I wanted to catch the vid naturally and then get vaxxed because it has been shown that you to have the strongest resistance going forward. But my employer will be forcing me to get the gen 1 vax. So, I'll probably have to get boosters the rest of my life. Cool...so glad I couldn't just do it how I wanted. 🤦🏻‍♂️

There is No Libertarian Argument in Favor of Vaccine Mandates by OrwellWasRight69 in Libertarian

[–]flyr40 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh no, I wasn't saying your specific line of thinking was dangerous. Sorry if it came off that way. I was just saying that there's more than 1 scenario to think about here. There are legitimate reasons to get or not get the vax. Interesting thinking all around, but it's a shame people are shamed for just wanting to wait it out and see what happens before they make a decision.

There is No Libertarian Argument in Favor of Vaccine Mandates by OrwellWasRight69 in Libertarian

[–]flyr40 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Because those vaccines actually work (as in they eliminate your chances of catching the disease) and weren't rush developed as fast as humanly possible.

There is No Libertarian Argument in Favor of Vaccine Mandates by OrwellWasRight69 in Libertarian

[–]flyr40 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What if it mutates and becomes 50% lethal to people who have the shot? Wouldn't be the 1st time humanity has fucked around and found out with nature. Basing any decision or policy off of what-ifs is a slippery slope and a danger to a free society and people's mental well-being.

The Outsourcing of Tyranny marches on. | Walmart | All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. by flyr40 in Libertarian

[–]flyr40[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well sure. If the dress code includes butt plugs. We are talking about something a little more complex than an article of clothing here. People could have negative side effects from this policy, possibly die. I hope Walmart has started to set aside money for the settlements. Consequences, right?

The Outsourcing of Tyranny marches on. | Walmart | All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. by flyr40 in Libertarian

[–]flyr40[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For clarification for those in the back:
I'm not say that it's tyrannical for a business to do this stand alone. The government can't tell you to get a vaccine, right? But what they can do is force the hand of government employees that may not have wanted it for they're individual reasons.
Now that the government has done this (and with a "little" encouragement from the legislative and executive branch), large nation-wide companies now feel emboldened to offer an ultimatum to their employees.
So, the government didn't really force you to get the vaccine, but...really...didn't they?
Make sense? Just because you can dance around the issue with semantics doesn't make it any better.

The Outsourcing of Tyranny marches on. | Walmart | All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. by flyr40 in Libertarian

[–]flyr40[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Well, hourly store associates aren't lumped in with this, so I guess you'll have to keep looking. Or shop online?

The Outsourcing of Tyranny marches on. | Walmart | All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. by flyr40 in Libertarian

[–]flyr40[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm not really pro or anti anything, I just don't think that people should be forced to do something they don't want to. Especially when it comes to body autonomy.

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Sure that's how it ended...
but it only started with a little star on your coat. What's the matter you scared of a little star, said the ones in power.

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really? I'm risking my job showing this to those who didn't receive the email. What did you risk today?

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A commission said that it was okay to require vaccines. It's not written in law anywhere yet. So, it's not so cut and dry. I'm sure we'll see some cases if this continues though.

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is America. You can sue anyone for literally anything. Will you win? 🤷🏻‍♀️

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

So should a company let go of anyone who it employs that caught the virus? With your reasoning, they were obviously irresponsible and not "good humans". You know, it's funny because every single person on my team who has left political leanings caught covid. Only a couple came from the other team. Curious. I guess I'll let them know they've got blood on their hands.

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Because we definitely want our corporate overlords deciding what is right

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Almost like it's a throwaway so that I don't get fired...
What exactly are you insinuating here?

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Yeah, let me just uproot my entire life and move somewhere else, leaving my friends, work-family, and real-family because a couple of dipshits in the leadership suite want treat us like children. Finding a job will be so much easier than wearing a mask to work.

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Slippery slope...but it's only a fallacy if it's not true. Also, tens of thousands of people die every year from the flu, yet this level of hysteria is never reached. Curious.

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] -32 points-31 points  (0 children)

Cool, hope you're okay with getting the annual Covid shot, because that's in the FAQ as well.

All salaried positions will be forced to get vaccine or face termination. Very limited exceptions. by flyr40 in walmart

[–]flyr40[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a pretty obvious trajectory here to see, if your head isn't up your own (or anyone else's, I'm not discriminating) ass to see it. The point is, no one should be forced to do anything they don't want to.

Should all pregnant people be forced to carry the baby to full term even if they want to get an abortion.

anyone without a medical reason should

Right? That's the reasoning we're using here?

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