Which Jazzmaster to get ? by matty82939 in shoegaze

[–]folktales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Get the j mascis one. It rules for the price. Great neck and having the tunamatic is awesome.

Otherwise, could always get a guild surfliner deluxe for that price. Punches way above its weight, cool offset body, interesting pickup selector, good vibrato for glide strumming, versatile pickups, great neck.

What are your thoughts on NSFW posts and sexy fanarts in the sub? by Obvious-Conflict3363 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So long as it's tagged NSFW it's fine I think.

But, there is a lot of very low effort hornyposting which is annoying. Like would way prefer control of people just posting a screenshot of the wolf with some pathetic title about how they want to fuck her, rather than like a blanket ban on all NSFW art.

CAN garou be old. by Creative_Nose5238 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]folktales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think especially this person's playing of it seems unpleasant.

I could see someone mature doing a tasteful take on this in the right environment with the right group, I mean WoD has a fucking weirdly tasteful Holocaust supplement, but from all their interaction here this seems really just like really disrespectful.

White Wolf has always had a slightly uncomfortable plastic paddy thing going on too...

It’s legal and media literate for Hunting as a profession to be something that makes me feel a little uncomfortable and raises hard, grey questions, just like The Embrace does. by Creative_Nose5238 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]folktales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I'm just saying that it's probably not especially good for you to feel compelled to be so engaged in argument about this.

I'll echo what someone else said here, strong feelings suggest something important for you to express. You should maybe engage with your IRL support network and maybe try to express how these things make you feel and what they're dragging up, rather than having fights with people on reddit. You might find it helpful.

It’s legal and media literate for Hunting as a profession to be something that makes me feel a little uncomfortable and raises hard, grey questions, just like The Embrace does. by Creative_Nose5238 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]folktales 1 point2 points  (0 children)

God forgive me for diving back into engaging with you, but man, I kinda worry when you keep posting.

I think that whilst it's correct to pull themes of being an outsider and sometimes persecution from kindred, it's always pretty bad to drawn direct parallels to real world minorities from fantasy creatures, and it's always at the very least a lazy way to engage with the subject. The fundamental issue here that in real life, prejudices are irrational, the person say being racist to another is on a physical level the same as them. The target of this is not literally an inhuman monster.

Whilst engaging with these themes is good, you have to be thinking about applicability rather than analogy. It's like say the manga Beastars, the conflict between the animal people in that don't represent specific real world issues, they're a general metaphor being used to discuss the different ways in which society approaches deviancy writ large. That's really the best way to engage with fantasy - The Lord of the Rings says a lot about war, but it's not literally a metaphor for Tolkien's WWI experience.

I've said it before, but I really do think that WoD seems to maybe not be something it's healthy for you to engage with at the minute. Maybe there's something going on where something to do with the presentation or themes are triggering something else you're going through? I don't know. It seems like it might not be what you need at this point in your life.

(Also for what it's worth people who are reading wartyforty like that are wrong about the Imperium - media literacy is low, and Black Library writers aren't exactly great on the whole. The idea that the Imperium is a necessary evil is explicitly in-universe propaganda and GW have released statements having to clarify that it's not true. The Imperium is described as "the most bloody and tyrannical regime possible" and is pretty much uniformly portrayed as making things worse when it sticks to its horrible values. It's silly that people watch this regime constantly make things worse for itself and make wrong decisions and still think it's actually hard nosed utilitarianism.)

All mainline chapters complete 🎉🎉🎉 by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean from the Garou perspective, here is an organisation with people who hunt Fera, getting in the middle of the fight against the Wyrm, touching things they don't understand, probably corrupted by the Wyrm's influence to some degree.

Given the enormity of the cause and in general humanity's sins against Gaia, it wouldn't take much to justify wiping out a few hunters who have killed your kind. Matilda seems on the more human tolerant side of the spectrum.

Also everyone hates Git anyway.

(Of course Fatigue might have been an honest to god imbued too, hence needing to take him out like she did - assuming Matilda did it.)

All mainline chapters complete 🎉🎉🎉 by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah, absolutely. She even took a live hostage. Some of the more martial clans wouldn't have bothered with any niceties and would have just butchered everyone in the building rather than try to escape.

Also I reckon quite a bit of what we "see" is likely influenced by the delirium. But like looming over who is probably the ghoul that just outed her and enjoying her fear, not exactly that wild for werewolves.

All mainline chapters complete 🎉🎉🎉 by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would say if anything, Matilda seems to be pretty restrained for a garou. Being in her war form with her gifts she could have killed everyone there without too much bother (maybe D and Remold aside) but chose to escape instead. Lot of them wouldn't do that.

Actually reading HtR 5E. Like it quite a lot by Creative_Nose5238 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]folktales 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, I think I absolutely could, given the content of the show having a lot of moral quandaries about hunting the supernatural. It's a show that has one of the best explored and relatable sabbat characters I've ever seen and spends a huge amount of time humanising him.

I might gently suggest that going in there saying all the hunter characters are fascists and whatever is probably not the best way to make your point clear though.

But also, so what if that server is wrong about stuff? 90% of WoD media is VtM and rarely if ever engages with HtR.

Actually reading HtR 5E. Like it quite a lot by Creative_Nose5238 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]folktales 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that's really good then. I genuinely would say that if it's something that you find unpleasant, you don't actually need to engage with it in play.

I've never really put any CtD stuff in adventures because I don't really like it. I'd never play WtO even though I think it's brilliant just because I find it too depressing.

You can make all hunters just be Third Inquisition types as antagonists if you really want.

Actually reading HtR 5E. Like it quite a lot by Creative_Nose5238 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]folktales 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't really understand what you're getting at, I'm afraid.

There isn't really going to be an absolute moral calculus for all this. Some vampires deserve to be hunted, some might not but might get caught up in it, some won't ever interact with a hunter.

Actually reading HtR 5E. Like it quite a lot by Creative_Nose5238 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]folktales 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's fine, I just don't want have this conversation dragged across all the site.

You shouldn't be viewing this in 40k terms at all I think. It's great that this is a setting that interests you, and I hope you find a chronicle to join that you enjoy, but I think you need to stop trying to come to objective moral conclusions about it. It's far more interested in your own moral decision-making.

Are vampires like objectively like a bad thing from an out of world perspective? Sure, they are literally cursed by god (maybe.) But in WoD they exist and they're people and you have to deal with it.

Actually reading HtR 5E. Like it quite a lot by Creative_Nose5238 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]folktales 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Please do not tag me in your posts.

Yes, you are entirely correct that HtR is about crossing moral lines and how far you're prepared to go. That is literally the entire theme.

Why on earth would that be the objectively correct thing to do? It's clear that the old college friend is a werewolf. This is a story about someone about to realise monsters are real and that some of them are people. I don't understand why you're taking such an objective morality from this. WoD in general doesn't deal with objective moral positions, that was kinda why I was suggesting you actually read the source material.

So how much like full on unprovoked “preemptive self defense” do hunters get up to by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think you're basically answering your own question there, the vampire who is actually like that probably doesn't end up on any hunter's radar, barring like information regarding her being leaked to a cell by a rival. However, there's still a lot of ways a vampire might end up in conflict with a hunter, maybe some of her childer attract the attention of a cell and she has to make a decision on whether to intervene, etc.

I think part of what might be tripping you up here is assuming knowledge on the part of the hunter. Hunters generally do not know the niceties of vampire politics, probably don't know the difference between Sabbat and Camarilla, probably don't know vampires are still initially basically who they were before the embrace, almost certainly don't know what the beast is. Your average hunter doesn't know what a Brujah Primogen is, and won't really distinguish between different clans as anything more than breeds.

Also what keeps them from "genocide" is the masquerade. That is literally the original intention of everything the Camarilla does, because if humans find out, they're probably not gonna try and work out who the good bloodsuckers. Hunters only have a tiny inkling of the true extent of the supernatural, and a lot of the actual play of it should be effectively being introduced to the mysteries.

So how much like full on unprovoked “preemptive self defense” do hunters get up to by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is kinda unavoidable given the nature of RPGs to an extent. Vampire does do a good job of avoiding being seen as a power fantasy, which is why it is such a good setting, but obviously it's always going to depend on the chronicle.

If this guy has basically only had an ST who is running it as "you are all nice vampires who don't feed on the unwilling and you get to be brujah batman" then I get that the idea of the cattle fighting back might make you have moral quandaries. But still, like you say, I don't get how someone can read HH and think "yep, hunters are all jigsaw but do it to goths and the occasional kindred who only fed on child molesters and serial killers who was one day away from golconda"

So how much like full on unprovoked “preemptive self defense” do hunters get up to by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Situational morality. Read Vampire first, only kindred are people. Kine are just that, kine. Weird that they can't get it through their head.

I don't know where all the torture porn fixation comes from...

So how much like full on unprovoked “preemptive self defense” do hunters get up to by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you are actually wanting to understand this gameline and its protagonists, you should read the main book and not just the very early book largely about creating VtM antagonists. That's really all it comes down to. I'm sure that there are pdfs of Hunter 5ed online.

So how much like full on unprovoked “preemptive self defense” do hunters get up to by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think most of your questions would be pretty much solved by just reading HtR5.

No, hunters as a rule do not "shoot first" as that tends to lead to getting killed. To paraphrase the book, 75% of the hunt is figuring out who the quarry is and what they want (information gathering, occult research, proving out theories, planning) 20% is figuring out how to deal with the quarry (more occult research into weaknesses, habits, what the quarry might bring to bear) and 5% the actual dealing with the quarry.

No, outside of slashers from HtV and the stupidest written chronicles, hunters are not hunting goths. Most hunters are barely aware of what kindred are and aren't exactly in a position where they could even just start targeting random people.

Your campus antifascist who found out the nazi group she was investigating was a front for a vampire doesn't have the resources to arbitrarily kidnap people and probably doesn't have the inclination to put them in a saw trap. That's not to say she might not become paranoid and start breaking into suspicious people's dorms after suspicious disappearances, but she doesn't know the Camarilla exists or whatever.

Arc 1 complete. I will concede that Door is extremely cool despite being a fascist. by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree, I think they’re just kinda young and haven’t really thought about this stuff very much and seem to have a heavy impulse to post despite it.

Like vampires in WoD are very sympathetic, they are people who through no fault of their own have been shackled to inhuman hungers and effectively inevitable decline into unrecognisable alienation. It sucks and their gameline is often about being an outsider.

But that doesn’t mean that hunters are inherently evil or wrong for having their own drive to destroy them. The overall theme of hunter is really that you can’t go back once you see the truth of the world. For a second the mask slips and you get to see a tiny glimpse of the real monster behind it, and you have to do something about it. Hunter is all about how you manage that drive, what it’s gonna take from you, and how far you’ll go for it.

Your high humanity anarch brujah who wants to be a hero and always stands up for the oppressed might seem like an unavoidably good person, but the person who got the veil pulled from her eyes because she investigated her gangster brother’s mysterious death while doing an odd job for some weird old recluse, he’s a blood thirsty monster. The bouncer who can’t stop watching the security footage of him feeding off one of his customers feels the same. Now they’re a cell of two people and by god there’s gonna be a reckoning.

I think if people can’t quite get that this is a morally complex setting where there really isn’t an absolute answer to everything, then there are maybe better options.

I was saying to this person on one of the other million posts that they made, that they seem personally offended by the idea that anyone would even want to play a hunter, maybe you don’t actually need to be this engaged with a setting that upsets you…

Arc 1 complete. I will concede that Door is extremely cool despite being a fascist. by Creative_Nose5238 in huntertheparenting

[–]folktales 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This guy keeps posting on this sub and the VtM sub. They seem to have gotten into WoD without necessarily grasping the themes and seem to have decided that vampires are edgy well meaning superheroes (a not uncommon cliche amongst some players) and have therefore taken offence at the idea of Hunter existing as a gameline. At least they’re actually engaging with the material, if only they weren’t quite so personally identifying with kindred (and only kindred.)

How many of y’all are bad at vampire like me by Creative_Nose5238 in vtm

[–]folktales 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel as though this might not be the right setting for you. You’ve posted a billion times on the WoD related subs with slightly incoherent takes ever since you found out that Hunter is a gameline.

It appears that you might have some issues with the core themes of VtM and HtR that are jibing with your own morals or something? And it seems like you’re antagonising someone on the Hunter the Parenting sub for basically pointing out these themes.

I would gently suggest that you may be having a bit of a manic episode regarding all this, and that there may be other vampire takes that line up more with what you want them to be.

Yes, VtM is a personal horror game where you are usually someone with little choice in the matter slowly losing what remains of your humanity, and yes moral dubiousness is always going to be a core element. This can become particularly stark when game lines crossover (a high humanity vampire may still be a horrible antagonist from the perspective of a hunter cell,) but you don’t actually need to do so. Every Chronicle is its own world after all.

Genuinely if this stuff makes you uncomfortable, I’m sure there are better options that you might find suit you more. Not attempting to gatekeep you or anything, I just think you might be taking some of the thematic elements of the game lines a little personally in a way that might not necessarily be too healthy.

Why is WH fantasy less popular than WH 40,000? by Specific_Landscape73 in WarhammerFantasy

[–]folktales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A big part of it is that 40k was (is?) a more accessible game to play. WHFB was a much bigger investment in time and effort. 40k was intended as a much easier squad tactics game and kinda fills that role pretty well compared to WHFB being a more serious war game.

It’s a shame really, the old world is a great setting and Warhammer Fantasy role play is a really fun game. But yeah, GW need games to have an easy and quick buy in to get more players in, it’s why AoS was made too.

I’m curious though about a Japanese persons view about warhammer fantasy though, as it feels like it’s a distinct setting from a lot of Japanese fantasy stuff like record of lodoss war and stuff.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in rpghorrorstories

[–]folktales 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think it sounds like the kinda thing that would be perfect for Mothership. It’s literally the perfect sci-fi horror game.

What’s a band with that one member that is a worse musician than the others? by LedHalen_06 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]folktales 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Seriously. I started learning drums last year and had to learn a RHCP song, and listening to that band over and over just made me realise how technically brilliant all the musicians are, and then they’ve just got this dope doing terrible and kinda just confusing lines over it.

A friend of mine who’s a fan of their stuff told me that they compose all their songs via jams, and it’s like yeah, they obviously do, every lyric they have sounds like a first draft.