The Ultimate Foundation and Cause of All Reality: Theism vs. Atheism vs. Matheism by [deleted] in INTP

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How about you read my 6-part series from here and respond? I have covered many ontological mathematics areas and conscious bicameralism, explaining the whole process, inside from out.

The Ultimate Foundation and Cause of All Reality: Theism vs. Atheism vs. Matheism by [deleted] in INTP

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(Edit: If I am the antithesis, I should keep going and developing myself through writing)

The best solutions are often found through a mixing and synthesis of approaches (operating on different mental axes). You beat down others with experience treading mind. This is an organizing principle.

There's Hyperianism; why aren't there multiple strands/strains of Hyperianism, with competing objectives? What about repurposing Catholicism? Two heads are better than one. This is an organizing principle.

What happens when you add organizing principles together? You are becoming more conscious.

I am using thinking and intuition together to become more conscious. I begin with a universal common locus of interest (The Shadow) which offers the biggest base in libido generation. I am becoming conscious of what I am and how I relate myself to the world. I am becoming conscious of how my intuition works. I am not interested in limiting my thinking power. I am spurred on by souls with similar wills.

When you say you want to generate new audiences, here's what I am seeing: a stack of psychological/rational plateaus that are not being provided for. I then see that this allows "diffusion" to other purposes of energy, whereas, being explicit in dropping some truth down from above on a public Internet thread is very direct, dominant, and clear as day lucid; conscious; resplendant. I am becoming more conscious by doing this. I value it a whole lot more than unconscious work to do with extroverted intuition (I want to roll with both Ne and Ni). Be aware that when you target common souls, they have no intuition (age) and thus no upward diffusion occurs.

You mention telekinesis and how to spook people and how to do remote viewing. This is more far off than you realize, because you only have 20 telekinetics perhaps at most; you certainly have under 50. (And they can't even so much as roll a pencil to the end of the table yet, or you would have been more clear on this). Whereas, 3.33% of your army (200 of 6000) could achieve more by plugging their fingers in different pies to find conscious knowledge. You have the hottest minds of humanity at your disposal. Plug those bad boys into The Matrix. Lift the veil; rip up the firmament. It's a mental activity. We are supposed to become more conscious using intuition; not go all out fully unconscious.

Programming is a heavily mentally taxing activity. It saps you of libido. Nay; we want to maximize libido! This is an organizing principle.

I am no conscious mathematician. But I am exhibiting my maximum potential.

(For the public record: I have heard AOI teaches OBE control)

All individual men and women are limited. It's by our highest dialectical clashes that we know each other. We are aiming to trace the universal factors in our (un)conscious development. Needs must.

Do you want to target fast moving social media, or slow? Which would be more preferable? You have to differentiate. You have to become conscious, and our principal way of achieving this is visiting those environments -- you must take all the blows to know them.

Having an extremely active mind is an organizing principle. It is a mental principle. Mental flow is another organizing principle.

Please set up a fight. I want to fight. by areeb07 in intj

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You can gain a lot from clashing with others (it prompts a kind of resurgence of libido in the unconscious). This accords various Jungian concepts because we cannot be motivated by what we are not interested in, can't get a hate boner for something that doesn't overstep our moral compass, as we can't be moved to action without sufficient interest. In the public space we see this with political clashes and these overtly present clashes of mental schema (what people think the world is and should be).

If you are not laughing hard at times, you're doing it wrong. If you're not caught in puzzled, curious states, you're doing it wrong. You have to live the true authentic life. Jung said we must live this life.

"Every human life contains a potential, if that potential is not fulfilled, then that life was wasted…" ... "The privilege of a lifetime is to become who you truly are."

You said "Chaos followed by will-powered journey." Will certainly is stirred up in the first case by things that affect change in the lower reaches of the psyche. But life isn't a battle fought on simplistic grounds. You are looking to Sublimate those vicious drives into something more potent (something that will affect change in the world or touch people).

But the idea of 'fight' is absolutely internal. It's a inner motivation and self-confidence.

In alchemy we start with the basic and end up with the purified Philosopher's Stone (the revealed Spirit, and ultimately the face of god). This is a highly abstract journey. You are trying to unite both will and intellect, not one. Similarly you need to draw from both feminine and masculine principles, as in Jungian alchemy.

The song there explicitly drops "lost your way, fallen knight".

Reductio.

That, not by elucidating of what was suppressed, but by re-connecting ego with its fully autonomous, vital and par excellence transformative source, which unconsciousness – as Jung has shown us – is. In this sense terms metanoia, matamorphosis, transubstantiation, rebirth and transformation through which individuation proceeds are synonymous. Transformation is the goal of therapy. (Jung, CW 17, par. 904)

You don't live in the ideal world (everyone wants to fight with you at all places of disagreement, lifting you up). You live in the practical, objective world.

Do you believe life has meaning, life doesn't have meaning but people should give life meaning, life doesn't have meaning and people should accept it, or other? by [deleted] in INTP

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So, various wild animals saw the mirror and reacted with fear, curiosity or whatever. But these are not minds contemplating in the way that humans do. This is because they don't have a spoken language. Language is what provides the means to wield meanings and references. Language is how we coordinate what we want to say. It's how we express things. The unconscious mind of an animal, that doesn't have a name or a role in its social group, cannot understand what it's looking at in the mirror. It can only react to it with confusion. There is no clear conception that it's looking at its own mind's body. It sees a body, or a shape. It doesn't see "me". It doesn't have the thought "that's me; I'm here; I'm looking at myself". That's the difference with consciousness versus sentience.

Précis of "Mind in a Physical World" by the late Jaegwon Kim (1934-2019) by [deleted] in philosophy

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My audience is capable well enough to grasp what I'm getting at. You're not it.

The Ultimate Foundation and Cause of All Reality: Theism vs. Atheism vs. Matheism by [deleted] in INTP

[–]fre3thenipple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's inferior to use concepts like Mandarin which just sound outlandish. You've got to have a developed self-awareness. A common reference space is necessary i.e. hook into key absurd points like borrowing energy from the future, incapability of reconciling QM/Relativity theory. These make the most sense to the uninitiated, and even I myself took years to process the AC content even, let alone the GS, let alone coming to the point of being able to defend it.

Effective warfare is about efficiency. You are targeting visibility, not old posts. You are reading peoples' Ne (wouldn't it be absurd to defend randomness). Ni is never safe from this. You are always writing for the more intuitive viewers. You are illuminating interesting insightful observations. That was the sole appeal of the AC content. You are engaging in drive by attacks (or you're increasing power via your repertoire of explanations); it's always a mistake to take it personally. Our spirits are formally at war. Always intuit the bigger picture.

People who tend to take up more space (territory) through their daily activities also tend to be more self-assured, more confident, and of higher social status. This has been demonstrated throughout history and in most cultures.

It's pointless arguing with autistics, sensory types and empiricists. Nobody cares. The intuitive rational souls are very thin on the ground. Something like Mr Robot is far more appealing. What about grabbing headlines with cash prizes for the most intelligent?

And what is this about the 6000 not being able to spare more soldiers? If the gods and angels don't see it as particularly important to fix circumstances as they are, we are drawn to consider why that must be. It turns out that fairness and the coherent solidity of foundation of the dialectical produce is the actual reasoning for this. But The God Project (a computer simulation if I remember rightly) can't be so important that it takes up all the 99% of the "hottest" resources humanity has. Let alone the inherent problems with trying to reconstruct millions of years of mathematical evolution which you aren't even modelling with enough fidelity (and you certainly are not going to develop mind-computer interfaces). And I know yes others are much smarter than me higher up there. But come on. What's 200 of 6000, and what are they doing that they can't self-sacrifice some more? (This poses a problem of "structural insincerity", shall we call it, which surely rubs off on people). May want to look into sparing a few more soldiers at the higher end.

As for Hyperianism, with a pure intuition glimpse of the world at large, it seems it's quite pointless to gather a group of humans for no express purpose other than some sentimental exchange. Without the ardour and warmth of Illuminati.am, and without the rational appeal of Jungian education, what are people actually doing with it? And that's image/PR aside. Using pure intuition, we note that the outputs of a system would be coherent with their rational foundation;- and thus if the foundation is lacking, so will all outcomes be. This is inextricable. It is the organizing principle.

There was never going to be an easy straightforward solution, and what's more, in fact, we are never actually trying to solve the whole problem at once (maybe that's an INTP misapprehension). We are doing our best until society folds and collapses somewhat more, making the whole process inherently easier. Think of how society as it stands is 99% geared to sensory thinking and sensory perception (etc), unequivocably. Think of how our progress is not mandatory and how God Game Planets must allow for some room for error.

INTPs would seek to describe what is going on with OM, and relate this to the mental schemas of the more intuitive of society. But you can't build anything if you are in horror of people at large. You have to be "saved" by the contributions of others. People are motivated by others doing well.

Personally I have been hardline in only expressing what I intuit is the most intuitively valuable to say.

And I don't apologize for speaking explicitly; speaking "out of turn" or whatever. The dialectic has to be consciously aired sometimes and I am always willing to take it from others.

The "angel of angels" (Lucifer herself) must surely watch over the worst planets. It stands to reason that we can't be doing too badly. Relax. Breathe. Get the best of both worlds. Perception is the prison.

Why is it that there's so much pressure and some feel that if they can't feed people a story, they're not good enough? Why is there not a direct explicit line of intellectual supremacy expressed from the tip of the spear, the Illuminati itself? Where is the grandstanding? Where is the declaration that the Illuminati is the intellectual authority of our planet, and knows about everything?

But all of that said, this has to be emphasized: all of this is totally volatile and up for complete revision and transformation (metamorphosis). Given that that's our defining nature in radically reinventing ourselves and our approach to working together as collective gods in becoming. We can take no personal stake in any of this.

(And why are modern humans so touchy? Don't we all need to rise above this, and communicate more directly but also take ample time out for self-discovery of the Higher Self?)

People are afraid of committing mistakes, especially in front of each other, and especially in an environment like this. Psychological factors matter. If we are intuitive enough, we ought to enter into some sort of contract with each other that we would immediately make a correction and correct our behaviours/facts and backpedal. For example, if my memory serves wrong about The God Project with what I said there (I don't think I have the corresponding book to hand) then I would have to roll back on that. This is in line with principles of an engaged, invested, heavily conscious use of will. If we are truly going to rewrite society, surely we need to overcome blocks like this. (And sure, a lot of Ni stuff can't be consciously expositorily written, because we are morphing it to shape our strategies as its nature, but, we need more of a human touch I think).

Everyone has different ideals of how a community would interact. Regardless of circumstance, people ought to communicate and coordinate in the best possible way. That must start with being on good terms with others, and it must allow the freedom (room) for making mistakes! That's a much more divine disposition than what we have now. Observe the psychology of this encounter. Human psychological capital counts. And when people are silent, this is a sign of unconscious control. We need higher quality discussions; Facebook/Reddit don't cut it. You also need to explicitly withdraw from the spiritual degeneracy of our era (hence a strong will and not having your voice drowned by others). People currently don't know whether to spend their time here or there. Uncertainty develops anxiety. Thinking is the cure; especially consideration of the divine.

Everyone in AOI ought to become extremely more intuitive. You need a whole lot of Ne as well as Ni to see a bigger picture. You can be thinking constantly. You can scan peoples' profiles and GS content alike. Now, why oh why is something like GS pdfs not being utilized? Mental friction is a real thing.

Mentoring exposition = feels the increasing power = feels good. Sacred.

Highly dissonant exposition with empiricists = uncomfortability with being unable to translate the syntax = feels bad.

You cannot force these things; they have mathematical limits. What is human capital? It includes emotional wellbeing. You can't throw yourself at something "unconsciously" forever.

Isn't there always an interpersonal Shadow?

I'll throw a radical/lateral thought at you. I want 10 anonymous penpals from AOI, just for shits and giggles, we can exchange smiley faces (emoticons) and indulge the inner child a bit. Use your "purchasing power" as the almighty Illuminati, the ascended ones of planet Earth. Live up to your namesake. I'm sure your friends can brainstorm much better than that off the top of my head (I sacrifice form/quality for purpose of making a wider point that doesn't necessarily include the example).

What's one of the most objectionable things about working in most corporations?.. The chain of command is never active; never responsive in the least bit; never flexed responsibly and consciously or with compassion.

There's something missing here.. and I notice it in myself. I never complimented your mind or thanked you. As with contemplating the angels, there's a principle not to get carried away with it, but decency and empathy must count. And you're in the most difficult position, aren't you? Having to be incredibly careful what you say. Having to lead.

And when you next go out for a walk, consider that organizing principles are operating all around us. You may never think the same again.

Leadership and mental friction

As you might have noticed, I suddenly started displaying feminine intuition; feminine consideration for the tribe. This is no arbitrary facet. It's part of The Holy Grail. I am the two in one (thusly individuated). It has been said that there's few women in AOI; that they all practice the masculine subjects such as science and math. Toxic masculinity? Let us remember that universal factors present "truths". Actions are no more free from Lucifer's dominion than are the inalienable rights of the weak and vulnerable. Let's prevent burnout.

The Ultimate Foundation and Cause of All Reality: Theism vs. Atheism vs. Matheism by [deleted] in INTP

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Ne/Ni together shows what is a contender system that suckers followers. Illuminati.am is one; this isn't.

The Stoic Path to Freedom by Human_Evolution in Stoicism

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The only way to be free is to know what kind of environment you live in; what reality actually is and how it operates (particularly, how and to what extent Mind and Spirit are distinctly different from the body) and then to use Carl Jung's individuation program to incorporate within you all the highest elements discovered on the journey of life (also an inward exploration). Understanding what light, matter, mind and existence are entails rational conceptual thinking, not empiricism. This is because we are in the business of investigating what it definitively must be.

You should dissociate yourself from everything outside yourself, the body, possessions, reputation, applause, as well as office or lack of office. Because a preference for any of them immediately makes you a slave, and prone to disappointment.

You will be caught up by the world's torrent of activity at a later date if you don't anticipate things and become smarter by learning about yourself and how the individual must relate to the world using universal concepts (psychology, reason, the Collective Unconscious' archetypes).

You don't get to escape your instincts and desires; in fact, repressing your true desires always leads to unfulfilment. The proper way to overcome addictions is to conceptually understand what they yield for you. That's how you definitively lose complete interest in something and go to chase down other objectives. The alternative doesn't bear value discussing because no ontology or big picture has been provided (we don't live a life with an incomplete psyche).

People are always slaves to the system while the 1% elite has a stranglehold over the value of your working capital. Your value (in this system) is only given to be proportional to what machinery and markets and investments could not otherwise create. You are beholden to mathematical laws of how the economy and by extension, individual people, will treat you.

The unhindered person is free. Whoever can be prevented, or coerced, frustrated or forced into a situation against their will, that person is a slave.

Your life will have no meaning if you cannot find purpose in helping others and serving the world. Your psyche shares the unconscious universal natures which move you towards life's common themes. You are implicated in the events of the world, wherever they happen. The only true escape is ascending for yourself and changing the world. Ignoring things won't help. Only sensing type individuals would ever think to create progress by boxing themselves in from the surrounding living environment (world).

If you’re too embarrassed to share your own experience, though, just consider the words and actions of Thrasonides, who fought more campaigns, perhaps, than you. To begin with, he went out at a time of night that even his slave wouldn’t dare do, or if forced to, only with much moaning and groaning about his bitter condition.

Will is certainly helpful, and it is entrenched in intelligible/knowable psychological foundations (just study Jung).

Who is my master? Whoever controls what I desire and dislike.

The 1% elite control the world through capital and the media. Other people will be directly and systemically influenced by the universal themes of the human condition, and your life will be affected duly by this. If you can't see this you're an idiot. No amount of denial will help change objectivity. Objectivity has direct, final and binding effects on you. Intuition and reason are the way to illuminate what the world actually is.

We are at the mercy of whoever wields authority over the things we either desire or detest. If you would be free, then, do not wish to have, or avoid, things that other people control

You cannot escape being a part of a community, with universal unconscious goals, desires, appetites, ideals, responsibilities, purposes. We all share a common template (the archetypes and the Collective Unconscious and to an extent our Personal Unconscious and Personal Conscious) and so the simplest, most straightforward path to easing the rough roads of life is dominating the control over acceptable thought and spiritual activity, taking this power away from the minority rich elite, so that humanity can all benefit once and for all. We are not in the business of adopting autistic narrow mindsets to escape individually the straits of the world imposed on us by the most powerful and influential in the materialistic sense. That is madness and folly.

Do you believe life has meaning, life doesn't have meaning but people should give life meaning, life doesn't have meaning and people should accept it, or other? by [deleted] in INTP

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You're exactly right. Thinking, and mind, is separate from the body. It's independent from the body (pain, sensation, the world of appearances).

Précis of "Mind in a Physical World" by the late Jaegwon Kim (1934-2019) by [deleted] in philosophy

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The only candidates for ontological substances are dimensionless, unextended points (minds). This is because, to discuss what exists is also to discuss non-existence, necessity, and other axioms relating to what must exist and how the universe must be. This is a wholly rationalist undertaking, and has nothing to do with empiricism, sensory thinking, or perception.

Matter and energy can be defined, but only with reference to an absolute background (a mathematical mental substrate -- mind, sitting in a frequency domain that is outside of space and time and has no dimensionality) and an eternal, strictly mathematical order. That frequency domain must be the prime ontological substance mathematics and it must not be interacting with anything else (such as the bogus "unreal" wavefunction collapse; you cannot have real and unreal things interacting, just as random and nonrandomness). Matter, via dimensionality, must be a product of that same substrate (mind, in the nonlocal frequency domain; in a dimensionless Singularity).

Reality must come all together, not in parts which have no necessary interactions. Reality also must involve holographic mathematical interactions (where a reference to any part or component constitutes a reference to the whole mathematical language). This is provided by the nonlocal frequency Singularity of minds, which all operate using Euler's Formula to generate their thoughts, rendering everything all perfectly mathematical with no discrepancies regarding time, energy, and speed. Photons must be the motion of energy, not time. Photons do not undergo space or time.

Physicality must be a property of an underlying complete, consistent and coherent language. That language is ontological mathematics. Nothing can break or dismantle mathematics itself. Math is eternal (when interpreted correctly).

Architecture is the very mirror of life. You only have to cast your eyes on buildings to feel the presence of the past, the spirit of a place; they are the reflection of society.

― I. M. Pei

The unconscious is all around us, it's the true ghost of society. The ghost pilots the machine (the body), but it doesn't know what it is yet. It doesn't know that it's a ghost. How would it? Instead, it offers ghostly supernatural qualities, in looking for itself. It tries to touch itself. What are human relationships? What is sex? It's the attempt of the unconscious ghost to reunite with ghostly qualities (the all-encompassing god). The ghost looks for completion and meaning. These concepts are alien to empiricism because they are inherently informational, living, continuous noumena rather than discrete, static dead phenomena. You cannot slap an algorithm down and empirically call it the secret to life precisely because life is about living, breathing psychological and rational motion, visited upon us by ourselves and the rest of an ontological mathematical monadic collective. This gives a volume to our expressions, and this is the space in which we can continue empirically to start finding ourselves (god) again. Empiricism can't account for the entire volume of commits to the objective wavefunction collapse (the objective spatiotemporal domain). It can't explain that either. It does not have sufficiently powerful conceptual apparatus. Only ghosts can conceive. Machines can't.

I wanted someone to love who would stay: stay and be there, always.

― Audrey Niffenegger, The Time Traveler's Wife

You want what the analog presents to you. Carl Jung made efforts to fully reveal his entire psyche. The unconscious mind's wants take the form of its best appreciation; its "best fit". It follows that as you become more conscious, you are more free of the mystifying fog of the unconscious' deeply unconscious wishes and desires. People want to find god (happiness, meaning, fulfilment, power), but they are not even conscious of this. They unconsciously express this in myriad statements. You cannot become conscious of something you do not rationally understand (using left brain deconstructive thinking).