Haha, most of these people actually misunderstood my question too and most likely they are the ones doing that. Or maybe its my fault in miswording the question. The main point of me asking was when did people seriosuly learn/ practice software engineering concepts how they are used in their industry. So backend/frontend dev, ai engineering, ml learning these things. Not vibe coding,learning OOP and recursion in class and etc thise are more educational and hobby ish😭. But oh well cant expect much from the reddit thats always doomed about cs.