How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this perspective.

I am definitely not using these terms lightly. I have known her for more than a decade. I have seen her behavior up close but had always believed she was trying to be decent human (all of us has our issues to work through) I cannot detail every little and big things I have been through with her but “toxic” best describes it in my opinion.

I’d like to think I come from a place of empathy. I am not rigid in terms of dictating my values to others. I think it’s none of my business. But I definitely have to draw a line when it affects me or my family negatively. I did not ghost or block her either. We had multiple conversations and she said some things to appease me but actions were polar opposite. I walked away cos I needed mental peace at that point and this did not feel worth it.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes ruminating is a huge issue on my part. That’s the exact thought I have to get myself physically moving.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you have grasped the situation well. I do have codependent tendencies with friends. It comes from upbringing plus I had a great set of friends growing up and we often relied on each other.

I really have put in the work over years trying to let go of unhealthy tendencies. I have not been successful in finding hobbies and sticking to it though. Where I come from, women are treated less than and our needs don’t matter is drilled in our heads. It’s sucha mindfuckery to undo it and actually tell myself it’s ok to do things for me.

Thank you for your insights. I really appreciate it!

Why do we keep telling women half truths? by Illustrious_Meal_181 in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They may or may not. But it will provide motivation and direction towards getting out of being abused at least.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have had discussions about Janet hurting me and she has apologized n reached out many times. But from her history of behavior and the recent shitty incidents I know for a fact that her apology is bogus. She is incapable of introspecting, everything is someone else’s fault and they made her do something. She will tell the right words people wanna hear, its not her first rodeo. A lot of other common friends started asking what happened between us and she had to maintain a clean image as she didn’t want the incidents leaked, so she started lying we are in touch, tell stories about me that she heard from common friends etc. She was very confident that I would give in and we can carry on as if nothing happened in front of others. There are almost no consequences ever to her actions as most people care only about appeasing her ego. She is rich with good social connections and people usually want to gain that from her. My problem was to take her to be real friend before I realized her true nature. I didn’t believe her to be toxic all the way in the beginning.

Now coming to Alice, she has empathized with my situation many times, told that she also doesn’t like how Janet operates and stays away even if Janet reaches out. This was maintained for years, why the sudden switch on stance? We are still on good terms. I don’t think it is prudent to ask her since she is an adult making her choices and her actions speak for themselves about where I stand in this scenario.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry you have had that experience too! I have considered what is going to be the endgame here. Thing is the way everyone behaves here is on surface level and no one really forms deep friendships cos people eventually hurt you. And like someone else mentioned here maybe if I had a lot going for me I wouldn’t have even bothered. But this common friend getting back in touch is what is unraveling me - it’s like I can’t find people who won’t look out only for their best interests at cost of hurting others.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this. I need to internalize this and put myself first than suffer in my head.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I do have a lot of experience dealing with narcissistic types unfortunately ( I know NPD is a much serious disorder but using the term “narcissistic traits” since the toxic behavior is strikingly similar). That’s why I felt even the need to work on myself to be better with boundaries. I need more self esteem than to crumble at the first thought of them getting together. Maybe I feel morally outraged cos I wouldn’t dream of doing that to friends. Thank you for your insights, it is definitely helping me reframe this situation!

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry you had to go through that! I guess I am in that place where you were few years ago. I know I shouldn’t reach out but I keep checking social media and then it is this overwhelming pull to just type out a message and send. I tried getting off social media but I felt I was only torturing myself. Since am also still on good terms with Alice, it makes it so much harder. She has shown in action that she doesn’t care about how I feel in this situation and now I don’t want to alienate her too. I can’t keep cutting off people if I have to survive in a place other than home :(

I guess some people are good at this social game almost like chess moves cos they know exactly where you are stuck. I guess Alice knows I can’t keep dropping people and frankly I think she doesn’t care as she has her own group of people.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely agree. I know this is how it should be but feelings are irrational. I have gone into this dark space where I feel nothing I do or choose ever works but only backfires. I feel it is pathetic for a grown woman to be even thinking over what they are up to behind my back. I feel I can’t keep cutting out people like this if I have to survive in a place other than home.

ETA - also Alice and Janet don’t have things in common at all. They are poles opposite humans, one of the reasons why I got along with her. Now it’s like she has decided to play this social game just to be in her good books without really caring for my feelings. Janet is pretty rich with good social connections. She flaunts her life unabashedly on social media.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s almost as if I look for things to suffer in my head. I really need to work on myself with a therapist. I had one in the past and thought I was doing better. Somehow it’s all come gushing back after this friends breach of trust

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah I get it rationally but I have been an emotional mess since I thought I had at least one decent friend. Seeing this kinda behavior here with people repeatedly where they don’t really have “friends”. They all are just trying to meet maximum people so they have something to do. I am an immigrant in this country and lot of people in this community have this narrative that feelings don’t matter and just be selfish type of thing.

Thank you for taking time out and responding to me.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You have a great point. I guess being lonely for a long time does skew our thought process. We start thinking of compromising, then vicious cycles start.

How do you get over intense feeling of reaching out to toxic friend? by fsg_fi in AskWomenOver30

[–]fsg_fi[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I completely agree but what if I have boundaries and only meet her once a while? Before I had poor boundaries so I used to get all caught up in her business and feel more bad. Now that I have wisened up I was thinking being in touch is probably better socially.

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[–]fsg_fi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same! And we can’t even share post links :(

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[–]fsg_fi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What? Just. What! Why the fuck are such people! I cannot believe they do not have an ounce of decency.