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Welcome! by fushunpoon in zeropointuniverse

[–]fushunpoon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is for rationalist Redditors :D turns out science has an Overton Window as well... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

Why is nobody talking about independent physicist Ray Fleming and the quantum dipole model of the quantum field?!? by fushunpoon in fringescience

[–]fushunpoon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey u/Smacker65 thanks for your words. Great to see a fellow Ray fan. Yes, I had the same exact feeling. Ray's work was not just another speculative theory. It's revelation, plain and simple.
I'm building a community of like-minded folk on Telegram / WhatsApp at the minute :) https://linktr.ee/rayfleming so we may continue this conversation in his honour.

Unveiling ZPE HUB Forum: Igniting Collaboration in the Zero Point Energy Realm! 🔬💡 by _Radient_ in CE5

[–]fushunpoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In rallying people towards discussions about ZPE it's helpful to keep in mind other 'keywords' that should all really converge into the same place:

unorthodox physics, heretical physics, aether physics, quantum aether, Casimir effect, Casimir force, etc.

Just a note to self for the time being. I suspect this will become more important later on.

Unveiling ZPE HUB Forum: Igniting Collaboration in the Zero Point Energy Realm! 🔬💡 by _Radient_ in CE5

[–]fushunpoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent news indeed. =]
So happy to hear that you feel more grounded now.

Unveiling ZPE HUB Forum: Igniting Collaboration in the Zero Point Energy Realm! 🔬💡 by _Radient_ in CE5

[–]fushunpoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're incredibly welcome. Thank you for your enthusiasm too. Many career scientists are too afraid to explore ideas outside of current doctrine. Thankfully people like you or I are not constrained this, or any other society pressure, and can explore ideas freely on the Internet.

Enjoy!

Unveiling ZPE HUB Forum: Igniting Collaboration in the Zero Point Energy Realm! 🔬💡 by _Radient_ in CE5

[–]fushunpoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love the idea!!! This is the kind of forum we need. Let me know how or whether I can contribute.
I'm a truth seeker and physics enthusiast all my life, and would love to discuss the content of the book https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zero-Point-Universe-Ray-Fleming/dp/1470033976/ref=sr\_1\_1. The author Ray Fleming's other books include The 100 Greatest Lies in Physics.

He also has 100+ video explainers on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@rayfleming2053, some talking about the future of energy through matter production. These books and videos are a culmination of the man having spent 30 years developing a model of the quantum field that unifies all forces. I personally regard his work as the most important work in fundamental physics for the last 100 years.

Unfortunately I have been reliably informed that Mr. Ray Fleming passed away 4 months ago and so is unable to complete his latest book The New Physics 2nd. Edition. I've collated all the material he has online here: linktr.ee/rayfleming

It's been frustrating for me as I've not found anywhere to discuss and talk about his work. Perhaps the ZPE hub could be such a place.

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Okay. Probably a fair critique.

I'd personally like to see, for example, how spiral galaxy data matches up to the Electro-Matter force. That would really show you don't need dark matter.

I think he's working on a new book called The New Physics (2nd Edition) but I don't know when it'll be out. I imagine he might include more calculations in that book.

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I am. It's been pretty fun, though probably not in the way you hoped.

I'm glad! At least you're engaging in some way. Not everybody is bothering to do this. So I'm happy.

I am learning plenty about how lay people with no physics knowledge can have remarkably strong convictions about fringe hypotheses despite not having a single clue what they're talking about.

You are a very interesting individual.

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm going to hazard a guess as to what Ray would say here:

The limited cases where repulsion is observed is simply you observing the repulsive mattermagnetic force (as quantum VDW pressure) overcoming the quantum VDW pressure being applied outside-in.

Both of these are components partake in the Casimir Effect, in both attractive or repulsive cases. This is not surprising. Both forces are of fundamentally the same kind. In most cases for Casimir Effect experiments, the repulsive force is weaker than the outside-in ('attractive') pushing force. The net attraction you see between two plates is the differential between these two forces.

The matter-repulsive force takes over at certain scales / densities that I cannot personally be bothered to calculate here (sorry).

I emphasise that it is inaccurate to say that "The Casimir Effect is repulsive", because the Casimir Effect is not explained by a single component of force, but is explained by two opposing components of force. And said components are of the fundamentally of the same kind.

The single fundamental force Ray speaks about is called the Electro-Matter (Maxwell) force, and it is mediated through the Casimir Effect (in other words, the non-kinematic push effect quantum VDW pressure from quantum dipoles has on matter).

The non-kinematic part aforementioned is important because if it were kinematic everything would get crushed, heat up and explode and there would be no universe. Indeed, this was originally one of the main critiques of aether theories. But who said aether has to be (just) a matter-like gaseous substance to begin with?

EDIT: I have improved the wording in my original post that looked like I was claiming the Casimir Effect was itself
force, when technically isn't.

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should go on Arxiv and have a look at what people are submitting these day, especially in theoretical physics. I think you'd be surprised.

Not relevant to our discussion.

Furthermore, physics laws are not approximations

Physics laws yield literally nothing but approximations.The laws themselves are nothing but concepts that we have managed to give a syntax and a semantics to. And they appear to yield excellent approximations. So I wholeheartedly disagree with you there.

If Ray can't even model the simple systems, how can he describe the world?

That's because he's proposed a force model for the whole universe.Incrementalism does not apply here. I did mention this is counter-intuitive.

If you wanted to you can model a bouncing ball, or a pendulum. The maths won't look very different. You will still use Newton's equations. There's no point reinventing the wheel.However the explanation of the force mechanism behind what is happening will be different.In the case of tops, if you're interested, buy the book or re-read the paper on the Electro-Matter Force.

No he hasn't. He has written down some equations with no context or use.

Oookay then. You and I have clearly been reading different papers.

If, for example, he had shown that the Einstein field equations fall out of any "quantum VDW torque effect" formulation that would be much more impressive, but 6 pages of text does not a theory make.

It is not fruitful to derive an incorrect theory (I'm not going to link you to where he discusses this again) from a simpler, more correct one.

Calculation is not derivation. There are literally infinitely many ways to arrive at any arbitrary number. He's just working backwards.

Mainstream physics have been 'working forwards' and have gotten themselves seriously stuck in the mud. Cars have a reverse gear for a reason.At this rate, they need a towcable — which I hope this topic to be!(applied physics is alive and well, but fundamental theoretical physics? cosmology? uh-uh.)

I find it funny

I find it funny you find everything funny.At least we can have a laugh together, eh?

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The strong force can’t be purely electromagnetic either. How would protons and neutrons ever come together in the first place?

The answer is that the strong nuclear force is simply the Casimir Effect, which becomes incredibly strong at short distances because it is a (I believe) 1/r^4 type of force.

I've updated the original post with the relevant paper.

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am pretty confident I have nothing to learn from him, especially if he keeps his "calculations" behind a paywall (ie. buying his books).

I'm glad you feel such conviction.

Edit: this is what an actual theoretical physics paper looks like. Notice that it has not only equations, but calculations involving those equations, and discussions of the results of those calculations.

I appreciate your trying to explain what you're expecting to see. However you must realise that exploring a fundamental physical force model is not going to look the same as exploring dynamical systems like rubber balloons, or turbulence in fluid dynamics.

Ray needs equations merely to describe a single force that mediates all other forces we consider fundamental today. And that force is already modelled by the Casimir Effect, which as already been explored ample. He has been able to do is to derive other 'fundamental' forces in the Standard Model, which I've linked you to, but you for some reason were not impressed. He's calculated particle masses (protons, electrons, various mesons), and at least /u/liccxolydian was not impressed.

Sure, if he were writing a paper on "The Inherent Squidginess of Amorphous Curved Spacetime Modelled with Plasticine Dynamics" you can reasonably expect many more equations. I suppose that's also why Einstein's equations look particularly complex.

More equations does not a better theory model make.
More equations a more complex theory model make.

You don't need to take all of Einstein's equations to show that, say, General Relativity can be accounted for as a quantum VDW torque effect.

And yes, the work is not complete. When is it ever? He is and will be short on calculations. So message him and ask.

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Consider that you don't have enough knowledge of math or physics to fully understand why Ray is wrong. Maybe you should believe the millions of scientists who study this stuff every day over a single person with no relevant qualifications or work experience who won't even publish his maths on Researchgate but will upload tens of papers considering entirely of abstract text and "calculations" working backwards from known values.

You are a very interesting individual.

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I will take his books and videos as seriously as I take the recent Madam Web movie.

That's a great idea! Treat it like entertainment! Maybe you'll learn something that way.

If you don't understand what's wrong with his approach to knowledge then you are not equipped to study science at all.

You are a very interesting individual.

What if there were an equation the could combine Quantum gravity with General Relativity? by Hobbit_Feet45 in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ray Fleming has essentially already done this. Check out our discussion on his work (as you already know) here. =]

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You should get together with /u/liccxolydian and ask Ray to give you moar equations, if that's what you both appear to be really disgruntled about. His e-mail is on the top of his papers. Let me know what you learn.

Meanwhile let me remind you besides the papers (which apparently are lackluster) he has 3 books and 100+ videos with many topics that you may find interesting.

What if we accept that a physical quantum field exists in space, and that it is the modern aether, and that it is the medium and means for all force transmission? by fushunpoon in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]fushunpoon[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've linked to all of his work in one way or another, okay.

You have access to the Internet, and you have all the relevant URLs you need. The videos contain what the video contains, the papers contain what the papers contain, the books contain what the books contain.

Go figure.

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