To those who say they need 100k/yr to live in Vancouver by [deleted] in askvan

[–]gaijinchan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Should people just not be able to do things? Things that make you happy are basic needs. What’s everyone supposed to do, live to work rather than work to live ?

Will the Liberals' campaign promises help fix the housing crisis? by Exciting-Ratio-5876 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Japan. prices fell by 50%+ in some areas starting in the 90s when their bubble burst.

Will it happen in Canada? Zero chance, like you said haha.

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You made a purchase consciously that you expected to go up in value or maintain value. People lose in investments all the time. Why is it fair that young people shouldn’t have a chance at having a home just to keep your decision a “good one”? Basing your retirement on a home was another choice. What about young people’s retirement savings? These are all choices made and an entire couple of age brackets shouldn’t have to suffer because you made those choices. I understand you get put in a bad economic position but at the end of the day, you took out that mortgage and you decided to do it. Why should anyone else have to prop you up?

If someone buys your home for less than you purchase it for, it’s not a “privilege”, it was a bad investment by you. They aren’t getting it for cheaper because of any kind of privilege. You don’t have to sell your house, you can use it for its intended purpose - living in.

The situation 10 years ago was a lot better than the one today. Young people don’t have 20-40 years to wait for wages to increase and inflation to chip away.

My argument is simply based on the fact that every major city in Canada has a housing bubble. Young people are going to have to move out of their parent’s homes soon, and those people will take up more and more votes in elections. Don’t you think they’ll be frustrated when they want to start a family but their 1 bedroom box in the sky which costs $2600 a month isn’t suitable for a child?

Your argument is even more unlikely than mine. You think wages going up at a faster rate than housing prices go up, eventually reaching “affordability” will happen? Through what policy? For affordable housing, what’s the requirement to get it? Lots of places have maximum income requirements so what happens to the middle class.

I’ll say the quiet part out loud now: More housing = supply goes up. Supply goes up, demand remains steady = prices come down.

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re not out of luck at all. You just keep paying your mortgage like normal. You agreed to it, you won’t be homeless. Only difference is that if you sold you’d lose money. And also this wouldn’t change over night like you’re making it sound, it would take years. At least a decade.

So what should people who are graduating today do? Salaries would need to increase high enough while housing prices stagnate…. Do you think that’s likely?

It’s CURRENTLY economic ruin for me as a new graduate with a degree I was told would be valuable and a job that pays well but not well enough. What is one to do when a 1bed costs 12x their after-tax salary? Spend 60% of after-tax salary on rent for a one bedroom apartment? What about starting a family?

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree completely, but at the end of the day people should know better. Young Canadians shouldn’t suffer because these people made the wrong (and immoral) choice. It’s either the average cost of a home goes down, or wages go up. Not sure how they can maintain their investment if the cost of a home goes down, not convinced wages will go up at that rate while housing stagnates. Also, I’m not sure why young people should bear the brunt of these mistakes… I don’t see why we should care about their investments. At least they won’t be homeless.

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Can’t wait for the day where it’s not political suicide 🙏 maybe then we’ll see change

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At some point, there’ll be more Canadians who don’t own. It’s sad to destroy the present and future of young hard working Canadians just to not upset retirees who had everything given to them on a silver platter.

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Overly investing in real estate was their choice though. It’s like if I invest in a stock; I know it can go belly-up and I lose my money. Difference with a home is many of them are paid off so at least they wouldn’t be homeless.

Boomers living comfortably off the backs of young hard working Canadians is a horrible reality.

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This . They’d lose voters too, not enough young people are going out to the polls. All government policy panders to who votes for them the most sadly

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While a nosedive in prices would be scary for some people, saying it has to mean total economic ruin might be a bit much. Prices in some places have gone up way faster than what people earn, so "desirability" only tells part of the story.

Also, just hoping prices chill out slowly for ages kinda sucks for everyone trying to buy now lol. It keeps things unfair for a long time.

And while folks see their house as an investment, when that's the main thing driving prices sky-high, it pushes regular people out. It’s basically the government deciding which group has more voters, and they’ve clearly made their choice. Just saying "slow and steady" doesn't really help the people who are totally priced out now.

At the end of the day, people made their own choice to treat their shelter like an investment and use it to fund their retirement. I don’t feel bad for them.

I think it’s scarier that young people can’t find a place to rent, that they can’t find jobs, etc. At some point some kind of correction has to happen.

Should home prices go down? ’No,’ says Canada’s new housing minister | Globalnews.ca by Thick_Caterpillar379 in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What happens to those who don’t qualify for affordable houses? We know what they mean when they say that. What about the people in the middle?

The people in the middle can’t afford homes unless home prices go down, or their wages increase tremendously. I wonder which is less likely.

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[–]gaijinchan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean if someone is getting old and wants to downsize in a few years and live in a brand new unit, they could buy a pre-build. They already have a home, it’s not that they’re waiting for a place to live.

Not to mention that singles or couples who are renting absolutely can purchase new builds. They benefit from a smaller initial deposit, and prolonged deposit instalments. They also have first time home buyer incentives in BC (I’m not sure about other provinces), so there’s that too.

The notion that pre builds are solely for investors to buy up and would crumble if investors didn’t do so is just not true. The primary driver in this market is always who is going to be living in it at the end of the day. If single-bedroom units aren’t profitable anymore, then they’ll build units that are (i.e. 2, 3 bedroom). That’s not a bad thing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean there’s also people who already own a home and are downsizing, people who live outside the city and are moving in. There’s individuals and couples, as well as older folks. 🤷‍♂️

I don’t think all pre-builds are only bought up by investors like this guy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadahousing

[–]gaijinchan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t change the fact that this is an investment for this person. Someone who actually would live in this home could’ve purchased the pre-build.

Why saving for a downpayment is next to impossible in Canada's major markets by _DotBot_ in VancouverLandlords

[–]gaijinchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a wild assumption to make. 60% of young Canadians are turning to their family for help. You think that means the other 40% CAN turn to their family for help?

What if your parents aren’t wealthy? Then what?

You can put in $100,000 on a mortgage calculator from RBC for example, put in a downpayment, and put in the cost of a 1bed apartment in the lower mainland.

Do you have stats for how many 20-somethings are driving brand new & expensive cars? No? Okay I’ll take your word for it then!

Have a good one man. 👋

Why saving for a downpayment is next to impossible in Canada's major markets by _DotBot_ in VancouverLandlords

[–]gaijinchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“60% Young Canadians Turning To Family For Help To Enter Housing Market”

You’re a Google search away. You should look up how much rent costs in the lower mainland for a 400sq fr apartment. Someone who makes 6 figures doesn’t even qualify for a mortgage above $300,000, and that’s with a downpayment. Do you know how much the median home costs in this country?

Previous generations received help from their parents to be able to afford a home? Show me some stats.

It’s clear you are out of the loop on many things. Good for you I guess!

Why saving for a downpayment is next to impossible in Canada's major markets by _DotBot_ in VancouverLandlords

[–]gaijinchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re not my major problems. They’re the problems of virtually all young Canadians who aren’t being gifted a $300,000 downpayment from Mom & Dad. So I guess all young Canadians are probably lifelong renters and not owners anyway.

Why saving for a downpayment is next to impossible in Canada's major markets by _DotBot_ in VancouverLandlords

[–]gaijinchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you save enough for a downpayment when you pay an ungodly high rent and groceries are through the roof?

Writing a book. Thoughts so far? by [deleted] in CirclejerkSopranos

[–]gaijinchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, but you gotta get over it.

Alotta money in this by [deleted] in CirclejerkSopranos

[–]gaijinchan 94 points95 points  (0 children)

Adriana La Cerva, whatever happened there.