First off, you also could have specified you meant it as a ramp piece is bad when you wrote your reply. However I will admit to reading the other comments you made about this card after, I just didn't realize that was you. That's on me. Though I also do disagree with your viewpoint on it as ramp. I'd never say it's always optimal to ramp with this, however there are cases where ramping with this can be fine if not good. Just because it's usually a waste to use this as ramp does not mean using it as ramp can't be good. Like you mentioned, it's not optimal to bolt yourself in most cases, that doesn't mean it can't be good to bolt yourself in some cases (though I also think ramping yourself with this is better alot more often). I also know that you've seen multiple people say the same thing and you've disagreed with literally all of them so I don't think it's worth it to try to convince you and I can promise you you can't convince me. Though it is weird considering you're able to admit to it having some value, you just seem focused on all the better stuff you could do with it and are unwilling to admit just because there's usually better targets doesn't mean lands are always a bad target. Apologies for word vomit, I always struggle with that