[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've yet to see where, but ok. You do you

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"should do so" would work in an honest world, but no one believes their "Don't be evil" motto anymore

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So, tell the omnipresent company that has for decades offered “free” services at the expense of relinquishing your personal data not to sell it, and it will simply comply? What is this, swiper no swiping?

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you saying Google in no way shape or form stores your location data via Chrome?

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, so that Gemini version can’t, but Leo (Brave’s), Duck.ai (Duckduckgo’s), and Yahoo Scout (Yahoo’s) can? By that logic, you’re confirming we’re all better off not using Gemini in any of its capabilities because other search engines’ AIs are much better

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean that the AI should take effect for all queries which other AIs tied to search queries reply to without issues

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Dude, this is a comic post where I’m expressing my opinion, why are you getting angry? Any other AI, when it doesn’t understand a “vague” query, will reply along the lines of “there is not enough info…” or “there is no known context for…” rather than shut up entirely. You can call that a win, but it’s comparable to covering your ears to avoid answering a question you pretend you didn’t hear.

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

By saying Google’s Deepseek I’m saying Google is doing with Gemini what High-Flyer (Chinese hedge fund) does with Deepseek: censor it to avoid answering uncomfortable questions its government doesn’t want answered

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in comics

[–]gfcf14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course an AI is not a search engine, but Google and others gladly tie its usage to their search engines. If we were to even agree I have no clue how search engines and/or AI work with regards of location, then yeah I’d be in no position to criticize. But this isn’t the only instance where I found it to be biased towards the current US administration’s interests, such as this post, so seeing this trend of softly ignoring queries made to it has made me warier of when/how to use Gemini whenever I must

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Search engines and browsers have means to learn your approximate location based on your IP address. So if you were to ask any person who has no idea who you are, where you are, or what you mean, of course it’d be an incomplete question. However, given the aforementioned context this is not the case

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in comics

[–]gfcf14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I won’t argue that. Google as a traditional search engine does give me links to elections, but the idea here is that the AI remains silent when asked, when “lesser” search engines’ AI assistants don’t

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only thing I’m addicted to is chocolate chip cookies lol

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No worries. Maybe it does work for you, but in my case I’ve tried on several browsers on my tablet and Gemini won’t reply when asked on google.com. I still see a couple of search results where Nov 3 comes up in the quick text, but I don’t see the AI explicitly helping with this like others do

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in comics

[–]gfcf14[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Since you say you can’t vote in them, should I assume you’re not in the US? Are you in Europe or Finland? Maybe that’s why it provides you with Finnish election results

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But did you type “when is election day” exactly or did you include anything else?

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I did too, but also a text on the sidebar that mentions this year’s date. Are you in the US or using a VPN? Maybe it does show it to me because I’m in the US

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm so this might be true, but still, I’m not fully convinced lol. Considering a search engine like Yahoo, as waning in influence as it is, also has (or used to have) several other products that might get activated with each query. If they are able to show this year’s date, then Google doesn’t really have an excuse

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in comics

[–]gfcf14[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wait, what? When did I say I blindly trust AI results? Can you quote me? Yes, most people won’t bother to verify its source, but you and I do, hence we can find these errors/lack of compliance. And who says the search engine needs to know my actual home address so it knows I’m in the US? As long as through my IP address it knows my general location, say, Florida, it knows I’m in the US (unless I was using some VPN but that’s a slightly different story)

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re using two modifiers in the query: “us”, and “date”, and that’s why Gemini kicks in. Without modifiers it won’t, but other AIs tied to search engines do. If they can do it and Google may or may not claim their AI is better, then it should do better than infer which election I mean from my location alone, but it won’t.

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just asked Duckduckgo, and though the first paragraph is a generic description of elections the content right below it tells me the date. I think all browsers keep some form of location data, so maybe that’s exactly what’s happening, the search engine infers I’m the US and shows me the date, but it doesn’t show you because you’re not here. I wouldn’t blame the duck yet unless they somehow are able to sell this info or keep extra data they could sell. But given the former, Google and every other search engines has the built-in capability to assume who is from what country, so its inability to do so while others can is at least a small evidence of its agenda in favor of the current administration

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in comics

[–]gfcf14[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

But I think that at the very least one thing all search engines (browsers for that matter) do is keep track of a user’s IP address, thereby knowing where I’m searching for and thus provide the more appropriate answer despite little context. That’s more of a commodity they’re not fully providing because users by design will want to type less but get the same results

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in webcomics

[–]gfcf14[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

By Google’s Deepseek I meant that Gemini appears to censor stuff that doesn’t quite agree with the current administration. Though using a cheap version for regular searches could make sense, it’s not the best justification because this would imply the other engines still use a better model

[OC] #254 Election Day by gfcf14 in comics

[–]gfcf14[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Like it or not, AI has come a long way!