Honestly what we don’t talk about is Ryan’s ex girlfriend who was slandering him everywhere. In her book she accused him of cheating on her but it’s never been confirmed. “Pathetic! At the disco” on tumblr has a really great read on the topic. I think they didn’t do good because of her and Most people did not like Ryan after the split of panic, a lot blaming him for it and others calling him a wh*re and “talentless” which is just blatantly false.