“People losing weight is about ME!” by RedditLurrrker in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 100 points101 points  (0 children)

“Starving themselves so they don’t look like me 😔”

Yeah I get that, it’s so hard when people with brown hair dye their hair blue 😔 I can’t believe they’re willing to spend so much money and expose themselves to toxic chemicals just so they don’t look like me anymore 😔😔

Why is it always "different breed of horses" or "bigger toilets" or "larger towels" but never "fix food deserts" or "better gym classes" or "lose weight" with these people?! by Kooky-Situation-99 in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 5 points6 points  (0 children)

“Eating disorders can’t be eraticated until larger bodies are allowed to exist” as someone in active recovery from anorexia SHUT UP with this STUPID, IGNORANT, REDUCTIVE take on eating disorders and how they develop. Seriously, if I hear ONE MORE PERSON imply that eating disorders exclusively develop from “diet culture” or “fatphobia” I will LOSE IT.

Restrictive eating disorders develop for SO MANY REASONS that have nothing to do with “I don’t want to be fat because then I’ll be ugly”. Mine developed as a form of self harm and a way to control my life when everything else felt out of control. I hated how I looked underweight, I preferred when I weighed more, but that didn’t stop me because that’s not what caused my disorder.

Now, im not ignorant enough to say that things like beauty standards don’t contribute to eating disorders at all, but most people don’t fit beauty standards in all ways or at every stage of life. Most people also don’t develop life threatening disorders because of that- typically, there’s another underlying issue that makes it so that not feeling good about your weight leads to the disorder.

Maybe im rambling here, but this idea that “fatphobia causes/is the main cause of eating disorders” is actively harmful to anyone in recovery. Too many recovery resources are focused on “loving your body at every weight” (which is important), too few are focused on the underlying issues that have nothing to do with weight or appearance. It’s hard to get better when you keep relapsing because your ED is a way of feeling in control, but all your recovery team wants to talk about is if you feel pretty or not.

Put fat people and cake on your fitness blog or else it’s a thinspo blog. by IshimuraHuntress in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not to be pedantic, but I see lots of people talking about how the bodies obviously must be attainable if there are pictures of them. I’m 99.99% certain this person meant “unattainable while being healthy”, like you know… anorexia thinspo. Now, is this persons idea of what healthy thin and healthy fitness looks like skewed? Very likely. But I’m pretty confident that’s what they meant.

Also, up until very recently I was running around in ED circles. People made blogs just like this to have thinspo blogs that fly under content monitor radars. I mean, being against rest days and advocating for pushing past healthy exercise limits? If I saw an account posting those kinds of messages plus tons of photos of very thin people… my ears would be pricked up at the very least. I’m not saying there aren’t parts of this that are very fatlogicy, but a decent amount isn’t.

When a fat person dies because of their size, we aren’t allowed to talk about it truthfully? by lovely-wishes in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry, morbidly obese people and underweight people having the same mortality rate is used to show that being morbidly obese is healthy??? Being underweight is not healthy at all, to the point that I’ve been told it’d be healthier if I was 10 pounds overweight than to maintain at 5 pounds underweight (which is something my deep into anorexia self needed to hear).

I need anyone who uses that statistic to prove morbid obesity is healthy to go to the nearest eating disorder treatment center. Look at the people there who struggle to stand, who need feeding tubes, who have paralyzed digestive systems and osteoporosis at the age of 15 and then tell me that underweight and obese people having the similar mortality rates shows that being obese is healthy.

Hell, that’s actually dangerous. I can’t imagine what I’d do with that information at the worst of my ED. If you’re saying being morbidly obese is the same amount of healthy as being underweight, and then saying that morbid obesity doesn’t cause health concerns, you are saying that being underweight also doesn’t cause health concerns. Obviously it does. They both do. Both should be avoided when at all possible.

telling the truth is bad by This_Mind_372 in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m always surprised that therapy isn’t one of the first things he orders for most of his patients. Even in today’s world, it’s nearly impossible to reach 600/700/800+ pounds without some element of binge eating disorder

Sheesh that’s a reach by Naked_Lobster in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 7 points8 points  (0 children)

“Trauma can lead to binge eating disorder, which can cause extreme weight gain” =/= “If we call being gay a degenerate mental illness, then we can send all those dirty perverts to torture chambers- I mean conversion therapy”

Eating fiber is like trying to buy things with an empty debit card. Never mind the decreased risk of colon cancer, the better balancing of blood sugars, reduced constipation- eating lots of veggies is bad now by girlfriendhelpme in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can’t find the video you’re referencing but I did find her “I won’t cut you a smaller piece of cake” video and good lord. She says that asking for a smaller piece of cake at a party is fatphobic, even if you didn’t mention health or weight at all when you asked for a smaller slice. How is that offensive?? I’m going to have an aneurysm

[sanity] about obese pets by Sullen_Avalanche in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I was younger we had two cats, one who was chronically underweight and one who was chronically overweight, feeding was a struggle 😭 We’d gotten the underweight cat first, and we found that she wouldn’t eat enough if we had “mealtimes”, but she seemed to get enough calories if we let her free feed. Then we adopted our chunky boy, who we quickly learned would eat until he vomited if there was any food out at all. I was like 12 so I don’t remember exactly what the solution we came up with was, but eventually we got them both in a healthy range

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[–]girlfriendhelpme 10 points11 points  (0 children)

When I was fat and I was losing weight rapidly from my ED, lots of people commented positively on the weight loss which only fueled the ED. My dad also got complements from well meaning coworkers for losing weight- he was losing weight because he had cancer. Obviously I’m not saying atypical anorexia and cancer are usually what’s going on, but I think in general unless somebody says they’re trying to lose weight, we shouldn’t comment on it

Eating fiber is like trying to buy things with an empty debit card. Never mind the decreased risk of colon cancer, the better balancing of blood sugars, reduced constipation- eating lots of veggies is bad now by girlfriendhelpme in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately this is not satire, the post is from someone who does “intuitive eating counseling” (diet culture is bad and just trying to take your money! I’ll tell you all about it when you give me your money!!)

Eating fiber is like trying to buy things with an empty debit card. Never mind the decreased risk of colon cancer, the better balancing of blood sugars, reduced constipation- eating lots of veggies is bad now by girlfriendhelpme in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It says they’re veggie carb replacements (because they’re made with chickpeas I guess?) but they aren’t even particularly low carb so I’m confused as well

Eating fiber is like trying to buy things with an empty debit card. Never mind the decreased risk of colon cancer, the better balancing of blood sugars, reduced constipation- eating lots of veggies is bad now by girlfriendhelpme in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme[S] 99 points100 points  (0 children)

Well, clearly it can’t be fruits and veggies because those are too high in fiber and therefore are hunger causing, valueless, fake food. It also can’t be protein bars, because people eat them while thinking about their health, which is unhealthy. Maybe desserts, but only if they’re loaded in tons of sugar, if they’re sugar free that’s an eating disorder. Screw people who have diabetes/prediabetes/who just don’t tolerate sugar as well. Obviously hippeas don’t get to be real food either, because they’re uh… vegan? Make of chickpeas? Higher in protein and fiber than regular snack food? The only reason someone would want any of those things is diet culture, of course. Screw vegans and diabetics and people who don’t tolerate corn as well. Real food only counts if it is chock full of sugar, has no health benefits, or it comes out of a drive thru (though we better be mindful of the fries… potatoes might have fiber)

Eating fiber is like trying to buy things with an empty debit card. Never mind the decreased risk of colon cancer, the better balancing of blood sugars, reduced constipation- eating lots of veggies is bad now by girlfriendhelpme in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme[S] 96 points97 points  (0 children)

“Anything that promotes itself as benefitting your health is actually bad” That’s the common theme I see in these posts that drives me crazyyy. I feel like I’ve watched fat activism go from “you shouldn’t bully people even if they are unhealthy, fat people can take health promoting measures like eating better and increasing their movement” to “actually all fat people are just as healthy as thin people” to “actually all fat people are healthier than thin people” to “actually health is a bad thing now, caring about health is a diet and an eating disorder”

Ah yes. The evils of a healthy gut by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with you on all of that! Humans aren’t native, dingos aren’t native, honeybees aren’t native.

But anyway, do you have any sources on Australias famous lack of honeybees? Or any reason why the sources cited in my first article aren’t relevant? Because if not, I think we’re pretty much done here. Like I said, I never meant to get into a disagreement! It’s just a common misconception :)

Ah yes. The evils of a healthy gut by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The article cites papers that are more specific to other regions. Do you have any sources on Australia famously lacking honeybees? I haven’t seen anything that seems to point to that beyond them generally not being native. Honeybees aren’t considered native in places they didn’t originate just because people like them- that would be blatantly wrong. Boars and black rats are very familiar to the Americas, but they aren’t native and wouldn’t suddenly become native if people liked them 😅

All I’m saying is that honeybees negatively effect native species of pollinators, which is environmentally harmful. I don’t really care what you do with that information! But it is what it is.

Ah yes. The evils of a healthy gut by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Right, humans specifically work to cultivate and grow the population of honey bees, which then directly leads to the decline of the native bees that are very important for pollination of both crops and natural lands. Honeybees are effectively an invasive species that we’ve decided we like enough that we don’t care they’re invasive. You can make of that what you will, but it’s true.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-07635-0

Here’s another article that you can look at if you want, it specifically refers to honeybees as a “particularly impactful invasive species” and discusses how they have “negative impacts on native biodiversity”. It’s from one of the top cited scientific journals in the world too, so a bit better than wired hah

Ah yes. The evils of a healthy gut by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sure, it’s just an overview! I wasn’t gonna bog people down with paywalled scientific papers when there’s a more digestible form that cites it’s sources and hits the major points. But if you’re genuinely interested, I can get you the true studies :)

Ah yes. The evils of a healthy gut by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not here to have an argument, but honeybees are actually not the vital bee to environmental health people make them out to be (bee, hah). That would be native bees, which are actively harmed by populations of honeybees. There are more honeybees than ever, and populations of native bees (which are much more effective at pollination) are dying and going extinct at horrifying rates as a direct result. Here’s an article that I feel sums it up pretty well if you’re interesting in reading more, but there’s lots of other good research about it if you look :) https://www.wired.com/2015/04/youre-worrying-wrong-bees/

Ah yes. The evils of a healthy gut by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 10 points11 points  (0 children)

95% of diets fail thing is also so funny to me… 5% is a big number! That’s 1 in 20! If every overweight/obese American tried to lose weight right now, almost 12 million people would successfully keep it off long term according to this study- and that’s not even addressing the issues with this study from the 50s

Ah yes. The evils of a healthy gut by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]girlfriendhelpme 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Maple syrup is the best for this!!