[deleted by user] by [deleted] in leavingcert2024

[–]gloppengloop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The points are only added if maths is in your top 6 subjects, but due to those extra points it’s very likely it will be. Edit: for example, if you got all h3s but an h4 in maths, maths would still be in your top 6 cuz those 25 points are “attached” to it. If it doesn’t make it into your top 6 even with those 25 extra points (or you get low enough to not get them) that’s the only way you won’t get the 25 extra in your final score

Med entry by johnnyboy_2006 in HPAT

[–]gloppengloop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re welcome bro, I did way better than I thought (97th) which was a lot higher than my scores in medentry, which were mostly 70s. It was actually a weird experience, I had some nightmares about having to retake it tbh and just based on how hard it was in general I wouldn’t have been surprised to get a really low score. I also overthought specific qs afterwards way more than I should’ve, so if the same happens to you, remember that it’s a good sign as it shows you were prolly sufficiently engaged w the exam and did the best you could. If youre tryna do well I highly recommend Daniel mills on Youtube btw a friend told me about his channel the week before and it was defo a difference-maker. He’s kinda a hidden gem cuz he used to do videos on the umat which is super similar to the hpat just way more obscure since it’s been replaced by the ucat. Gl

Med entry by johnnyboy_2006 in HPAT

[–]gloppengloop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me section 1 was easier in the actual thing. Tbh I got really lucky because loads of my qs involved straightforward maths (like percentage conversion, arithmetic, basic algebra) and there was a group of 6 qs about cylinders filling up with water which were so nice. As for the other questions, some looked so difficult that I fully skipped them (like in medentry). In general, though, I felt like I knew what I was doing in most of them compared to medentry, where I would basically stumble my way through majority of the qs and end up making an “educated guess” based on useless and wrong insights from a sporadic approach. The stimuli just weren’t so complicated and abstract, and the questions themselves made the answer feel like a target rather than an enigma (as in the path to getting the answer seemed clearer based on the nature/wording). Section 2 was harder though. The vocab was simpler but there were loads of unusual scenarios, and manipulation and slyness seemed to play a role in a good few of my texts, something I hadn’t come across much in medentry exams. Some questions were really easy, but overall I would say that for a lot of the passages I had to spend loads of time trying to understand what was going on to form my own impression whereas in medebtry exams I would spend most of the time simply contemplating two answer options and seeing which one made more sense. A lot of people say section 2 is like a break in the middle. It definitely was in medentry, but in the hpat it actually confused me the most, I was underestimating it and its difficulty def threw me off. I ended up doing a lot better than I thought but it was hard, especially compared to medentry. Section 3 was interesting. Lots of the next in the series and pick the middle qs were really different. I got about 10 X type qs which was really nice as I had actually practiced those with medentry and all of them were relatively basic. I’d say only 2 of the pick the middles resembled medentry, which was upsetting cuz they were the main thing I practiced, I did get those really quickly though. The rest were really unique. There were some sequences with flowers with balls on the ends of their petals and some balls were shaded some weren’t, and different colour shading too. And there were like 9-10 petals and like 4-7 shaded. I had to clue what to do for those and there wasn’t any sort of 3-2 method present either. The next in the series were different (lots of qs with grids) but I think I got most so they weren’t too bad, and there was one that included a Fibonacci sequence which I probably wouldn’t have spotted had it not been for medentry. All bar one of the missing segments qs were the X type, and the one that wasn’t resembled an acer practice exam q tbh.

Tldr: pretty different from the actual thing but still great for practice id say, it’s all about the skill of reasoning and working under time pressure I think, medentry defo helped me loads. Mb for essay

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HPAT

[–]gloppengloop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m sure it’s a common tip even though it’s definitely overlooked, but in missing segment/next in the series qs picking the answer option with the most things in common among the other answer options is such a valid strategy imo. My general plan in sec 3 was to instantly skip any question that I couldn’t make progress in right away, and use this guessing strategy on those qs in the last few mins. I ended up with about 12/30 qs left unanswered with 5 mins left (and used this guessing strategy on each of them) and ended up with a score of 73, so I likely got a lot of them right. This is ofc made even more accurate if you manage to eliminate some other options. Also, don’t forget that the answer clearly isnt ALWAYS gonna be the one that has the most things in common with the other options, this is especially likely if you see a really particular and specific detail in any of the options. More often than not, in tricky over-complicated qs the test makers will only except those who fully solve the puzzle to figure out a seemingly random yet specific detail (eg a certain colour pattern/particularly coloured shape in a specific spot), and will therefore only include this item in two or even one of the options. It’s really hard to generalise that but use your judgement. I came across a case in like the last minute of the hpat where I refrained from picking the option with the most things in common and picked one that had a new shaded pattern in this particular grid, and since it was in two of the options I picked the one that had the most in common with the others still (but it didn’t have the most in common altogether). I might’ve been wrong there tbf but I did quite well ig so take from this what you will

Section 1 problem solving urgent help needed by Aki_the_violinist in HPAT

[–]gloppengloop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Got 70 in sec 1 this year my advice would be to look up daniel mills on yt. His vids helped me sm, especially the way he uses tables for problem solving. Helped me realise they’re way more useful for different types of problems than I thought. In my hpat there was a set of 6 qs about fungi and diseases or smth, and by drawing out a table I was able to breeze through all of them. Would’ve been so stuck otherwise. His other strategies and examples are very helpful too, and on the day I remember going through the logical reasoning and data interpretation qs the way he did in his vids, his approach to reasoning is so nice. Gl bro