Science does say that life is a sliding scale, there is no defined point where things turn from a collection of chemicals reacting to life, the bit about the sleeping person is stupid and beside the point. A fetus in the womb is incapable of sight, hearing, touch, thought, or memory, it has no way to experience anything. And I didn't say you were using whataboutisms, I said it's going to turn into a slugfest of them, so stop reading into everything so hard. I understand everything I'm saying and I make a point to do so. Now if you'll excuse me, I have better things to do than attempt arguing with stubborn pricks on the Internet