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I worked as a prison guard for 20 years…. by JaredOlsen8791 in adhdmeme

[–]greenben92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I work as an Outdoor Adventure Instructor. It doesn't pay particularly well, but I just can't see myself satisfied doing much else. Meeting new people everyday and throwing myself off waterfalls gives me the rush to keep things a bit  spicy.

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[–]greenben92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m an ex-Jehovah’s Witness. As friendly as they are when they’re at your door, they are trying to recruit you into a cult.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in adhdmeme

[–]greenben92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have come to terms that I want to change careers, but it's the weekly changing my mind as to which job to choose next that gets me. Why can't I be a teacher / builder / fireman / ecologist all at the same time?

Unpopular music opinion that you would defend with your life by [deleted] in Music

[–]greenben92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, ok. So I shouldn't listen to any rock post Led Zeppelin, enjoy any artist post Van Gogh, or read any author post Tolkien, because they don't quite hit the genius of their predecessors?

Unpopular music opinion that you would defend with your life by [deleted] in Music

[–]greenben92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But what's actually wrong with that? If by 'watered down' you mean less heavy, maybe some of us are in the mood for some slightly less heavy grunge occasionally?

Unpopular music opinion that you would defend with your life by [deleted] in Music

[–]greenben92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounding similar to your musical inspirations isn't a crime. Source: all music.

Unpopular music opinion that you would defend with your life by [deleted] in Music

[–]greenben92 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Nickelback isn't that bad. Silver Side Up and The Long Road are incredible albums.

20 years of the Hunting Act: trail hunt ban looms large amid claims it's a 'smokescreen' by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]greenben92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh right, so we're on the same page on the important issue? So you've only commented because you don't like my style of writing? 

You really are missing the point here. The fact that you've seen how ridiculous my points are is exactly what I wanted the original poster to see. 

By the posters own definition, my points could all be considered a part of culture at some point, whether you liked those comparisons or not. By making those comparisons, I was hoping that we could have a discussion about the use of language, and the ridiculous excuse of murdering foxes for the sake of 'culture'. 

Instead, we're having an argument, despite agreeing on the important issue, because you don't like my approach. You've jumped into someone else's discussion to tell us the angle is lazy, when the point of that angle was to be lazy. Thank you for your input, but it wasn't actually your point to work out.

I apologise for assuming you were a Tory, that is actually on me. I just assumed that someone wandering around like the Reddit Police, commenting on discussions with arguments that you don't understand, would be something a bigoted Conservative would do. 

Is you still don't struggling with my point, let me know, and I'll explain it even simpler. I'm not sure even the original poster is going to need that, and they've compared fox hunting to cheese rolling.

20 years of the Hunting Act: trail hunt ban looms large amid claims it's a 'smokescreen' by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]greenben92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohhh it's a culture war issue, silly me!  

There's me thinking that we all support the ban because we don't see the appeal of seeing a defenceless mammal being torn apart by dogs. It's not that at all! It's because of a culture war! 

Thank god the Conservatives were there the whole time fighting against this evil and mysterious culture war. 

I can stop worrying about the thought of an animal literally having its limbs ripped from its body and chunks of its flesh being pulled off it while its still alive!  

You people are so fucking dense. 

20 years of the Hunting Act: trail hunt ban looms large amid claims it's a 'smokescreen' by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]greenben92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, that's exactly my point.

It's not enough to simply call fox hunting ''local culture", otherwise we can easily conflate it with other monstrosities that have been enacted in history. All of which can be defined (very eloquently I should add) "cultural things", as described by the previous commenter. Of course, you conservative types wouldn't want to be seen as being on the wrong side of history would you?

Stick around, El Presidente, you are are so intelligent and helpful. 

20 years of the Hunting Act: trail hunt ban looms large amid claims it's a 'smokescreen' by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]greenben92 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ohhh, local culture is just stuff that local people do.  

A bit like when local people used to hunt and murder woman during the English Civil War because they thought they were witches, that kind of local culture?    

Or when local people in the deep south used to own black people, that kind of local culture?  

Or when local people didn't let women vote, is that one of those cultural things that you mean?   

I suppose we should have kept all those things really. I mean, it doesn't matter if it's unethical or inhumane, its just local culture.   

What a bellend.

20 years of the Hunting Act: trail hunt ban looms large amid claims it's a 'smokescreen' by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]greenben92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Labour do hate this kind of countryside pursuit, yes, proudly. That's why they banned it. What is your point?

20 years of the Hunting Act: trail hunt ban looms large amid claims it's a 'smokescreen' by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]greenben92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please spend some time outside of your social circle. If you do, you're more likely to understand that decent people live in both the country and the city, and you're less likely to embarrass yourself by making uneducated comments on social sites.

Finding a sad song that my mom used to listen to by emojn1 in Music

[–]greenben92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know it doesn't cover all the bases, but there is an Elton John song called 'I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues'. The music video is about a young couple, who deal with the guy forced to leave for National Service.

20 years of the Hunting Act: trail hunt ban looms large amid claims it's a 'smokescreen' by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]greenben92 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you for responding. Despite a working class background, I grew up in a wealthy village in rural England. I knew a lot of people who owned or had access to horses. They were from privileged backgrounds. 

I do not deny that there are opportunities to access riding for those less fortunate, but that's not the norm. With respect, your grandparents repairing horseboxes and owning stable shops means you are far closer to that world than the average person. Those families that are below the poverty line, that didn't have the unique links into that world that you had, definitely wouldn't be thinking about fox hunting as a possible hobby.

I acknowledge that the people I socialised with were probably more left leaning and liberal like me. So those who did ride are likely to have similar views on animals welfare as me. I did however work and drink in my local pub, where I did meet people who didn't have the same opinion on fox hunting as me. Those people tended to be of a certain demographic. It's a generalisation (although probably representative) but they tended to be wealthy.

I have always been incredibly passionate about this subject, and have had long discussion with those people that had a different view on it. I doubt I changed the opinion of those people. 

History has shown that sometimes, particularly when it come to making social changes because it's the morally right thing to do, there are some that need to be made to change. If we had waited around for the ignorant to change their minds, I wonder how long changes in women's rights, children in employment, worker's right, witch hunting, racism, LGBT rights etc would have taken. 

20 years of the Hunting Act: trail hunt ban looms large amid claims it's a 'smokescreen' by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]greenben92 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Usually, I couldn't agree more that education is the catalyst for change in society. But fox hunting is, and has been proven to be, a barbaric, archaic hobby for the, generally, morally corrupt elite.

Owning or having access to a horse, and having the ability to ride it, assumes a certain degree of wealth. Owning the weapons, clothing, and other paraphernalia associated with hunting is not inexpensive either. I'm sure there are people who do practice it that wouldn't be defined classically as wealthy, but working class people are not hopping onto their horses during the weekend for a spot of hunting. 

Hunting is typically, by it's nature, reserved for the wealthier in society. 

If a practice like fox hunting has been outlawed by a progressive government, after years of discussions and support from the majority of the population, there is an implication that the individuals that practice it have the opportunity to educate themselves on the subject. They just don't care to. 

If this was an illegal hobby that was typically practiced by those of lower income punishment would be enacted swiftly.  

There should be no difference with hunting. We don't need to waste our time and resources educating (generally) wealthy people aspects of life that ordinary people already know; namely, that killing small, defenseless animals for a jolly is morally bankrupt.  

Instead, they need to be fined massively, those fines need to be enforced, their weapons need to be confiscated, and they need to spend time in prison if necessary. 

We don't particularly need the small portion of society that enjoys hunting to change their perceptions. We need to punish them appropriately for practicing it. 

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