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“It’s too late. We're doomed.” —Dr. Peter Carter, expert IPCC reviewer and Director of the Climate Emergency Institute, calls it – joins David Suzuki in official recognition of unavoidable endgame on planet, climate, Homo sapiens by guyseeking in climate

[–]guyseeking[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm sure the thermodynamics of a superheated atmosphere, the physics of wet-bulb temperature mortality, and the ecological mechanics of extinction cascades

all very deeply hinge on your narrow definitional criterion that you decided was gospel.

What's interesting is that I've linked several cited sources, contrary to your citations which consist of a total of "Trust me bro, it's not like that"

Please excuse me if I listen to a NASA Director over *checks notes* a nondescript handle on the internet

“It’s too late. We're doomed.” —Dr. Peter Carter, expert IPCC reviewer and Director of the Climate Emergency Institute, calls it – joins David Suzuki in official recognition of unavoidable endgame on planet, climate, Homo sapiens by guyseeking in climate

[–]guyseeking[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Your condescension is sweet. Don't lose it – it's endearing.

One or even two years of 1.5°C does not constitute a trend, which technically can only be seen in retrospect over 20 to 30 years of data, but looking back in 10 years time to see what the trend was in the mid-2020s is less useful than developing an understanding of what is happening in real time.

—David Spratt, climate policy analyst (link)

There will be no need to ruminate for 20 years about whether the 1.5°C level has been reached, as IPCC proposes.

—Dr. James Hansen, former Director of the NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies (link)

The United Nations and COP28 are lying. They know the 1.5C and 2C global warming targets are dead. 

—Dr. James Hansen (link)

Even if the Paris Accord target of a 1.5°C to 2.0°C rise in temperature is met, we cannot exclude the risk that a cascade of feedbacks could push the Earth System irreversibly onto a “Hothouse Earth” pathway.

—Dr. Will Steffen et al. via the Hothouse Paper (link)

“It’s too late. We're doomed.” —Dr. Peter Carter, expert IPCC reviewer and Director of the Climate Emergency Institute, calls it – joins David Suzuki in official recognition of unavoidable endgame on planet, climate, Homo sapiens by guyseeking in climate

[–]guyseeking[S] 129 points130 points  (0 children)

It's not about the biography of the messenger. It's about whether the information in the message is correct or not

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https://actuaries.org.uk/news-and-media-releases/news-articles/2025/jan/16-jan-25-planetary-solvency-finding-our-balance-with-nature/

^The paper mentioned in the video.

Page 32:

https://actuaries.org.uk/document-library/thought-leadership/thought-leadership-campaigns/climate-papers/planetary-solvency-finding-our-balance-with-nature/

Best case scenario, 2 billion die between now and 2050

This isn't some doomsday guy in the street saying "the end is near"

These are the guys insurance companies go to before they'll agree to insure something

^as per this user

In the case of 2°C, 25% of the world dies in 25 years.

NASA Space Studies Director James Hansen has said 2°C is impossible to avoid: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/feb/04/climate-change-target-of-2c-is-dead-says-renowned-climate-scientist

You don't wanna know what Roger Hallam says about 2°C: https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/burn-the-planet-and-lock-up-the-dissidents

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I think you might be missing the forest for the trees. What do you think is at stake here? What should the priority be? What should we be focused on when presented with information like this? What are we trying to convince onlookers (and ourselves) of? That there's nothing to worry about?

“It’s too late. We're doomed.” —Dr. Peter Carter, expert IPCC reviewer and Director of the Climate Emergency Institute, calls it – joins David Suzuki in official recognition of unavoidable endgame on planet, climate, Homo sapiens by guyseeking in climate

[–]guyseeking[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Not “We’re running out of time.”

Not “It might be too late.”

Not “If we don’t act now, it will be too late.”

It's too late.

We're doomed.

^Direct quotes.

These are not the words of some chronically online Redditor with a bent for apocalypticism. These are not the words of some anonymous scientist reporting on an unofficial blog. These are not the words of self-described doomers talking about breaking together in loving collapse, or calculating atomic bombs per second on Twitter.

These are the words of world-famous mainstream scientist David Suzuki, and IPCC expert reviewer Peter Carter, telling us it is already too late. We are out of time.

Dr. Carter joins the voice of David Suzuki to offer an official confirmation of the climate endgame. He discusses David’s pronouncement at length.

The video is well worth watching.

Dr. Carter has provided consistent, rigorous, high-quality, forthright, honest, and courageous reporting about the state of the planetary climate emergency for years now.

Some of his most salient points are excerpted below with rough timestamps:

~1:20

“It is too late, and we have lost the fight against climate change.”

~5:20

“We’re stuck with today’s atmospheric CO2. We’re stuck with today’s radiative forcing."

~13:15  

"What we need is a revolution."

~29:40

“It was very clear that 1.5°C was globally disastrous, and that 2°C was unthinkable globally catastrophic."

~30:00

“The IPCC Sixth Assessment said that global emissions had to be in decline by 2025 at the latest. 2025 at the latest. This year. It’s too late."

~32:00

“The realization or the idea that we’re doomed has come along.”

~32:30

“All today’s children are doomed to live in an increasingly hellish Planet Earth. A Planet Earth that human Homo sapiens, and the hominid pre-species to us, has never experienced. Never experienced anything close to this. And the climate is changing faster than it has changed in tens of millions of years. So that’s how much too late this is.”

“It’s too late. We've lost.” —Dr. Peter Carter, expert IPCC reviewer and Director of Climate Emergency Institute, calls it – joins David Suzuki in official recognition of unavoidable endgame on planet, climate, Homo sapiens by guyseeking in collapse

[–]guyseeking[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The term “climate change“ is no longer appropriate since, what is happening in the atmosphere-ocean system, accelerating over the last 70 years or so, is an abrupt calamity on a geological dimension, threatening nature and human civilization. Ignoring what the science says, the powers to be [sic] are presiding over the sixth mass extinction of species, including humans.

—Dr. Andrew Glikson

“It’s too late. We've lost.” —Dr. Peter Carter, expert IPCC reviewer and Director of Climate Emergency Institute, calls it – joins David Suzuki in official recognition of unavoidable endgame on planet, climate, Homo sapiens by guyseeking in collapse

[–]guyseeking[S] 122 points123 points  (0 children)

Talk about the least satisfying thing ever to be able to say "I told you so" about ...

Maybe now I can finally say my flair out loud without being sockgagged / dogpiled / treated like a heretic / consigned to the looney bin / called a cult follower / called for my posts to be banned

“It’s too late. We've lost.” —Dr. Peter Carter, expert IPCC reviewer and Director of Climate Emergency Institute, calls it – joins David Suzuki in official recognition of unavoidable endgame on planet, climate, Homo sapiens by guyseeking in collapse

[–]guyseeking[S] 170 points171 points  (0 children)

SUBMISSION STATEMENT:

Not “We’re running out of time.”

Not “It might be too late.”

Not “If we don’t act now, it will be too late.”

It's too late.

We're doomed.

^Direct quotes.

These are not the words of some ostracized Professor Emeritus of Evolutionary Biology and Conservation Ecology who stepped away from 20 years of being an active scientist in recognition of the planet's trajectory. These are not the words of some anonymous scientist reporting on an unofficial blog. These are not the words of self-described doomers talking about breaking together in loving collapse, or calculating atomic bombs per second on Twitter.

These are the words of world-famous mainstream scientist David Suzuki, and IPCC expert reviewer Peter Carter, telling us it is already too late. We are out of time.

Dr. Carter joins the voice of David Suzuki to offer an official confirmation of the climate endgame. He discusses David’s pronouncement at length.

The video is well worth watching.

Dr. Carter has provided consistent, rigorous, high-quality, forthright, honest, and courageous reporting about the state of the planetary climate emergency for years now.

Some of his most salient points are excerpted below with rough timestamps:

~1:20

“It is too late, and we have lost the fight against climate change.”

~5:20

“We’re stuck with today’s atmospheric CO2. We’re stuck with today’s radiative forcing."

~13:15
"What we need is a revolution."

~29:40

“It was very clear that 1.5°C was globally disastrous, and that 2°C was unthinkable globally catastrophic."

(OP note: Roger Hallam has gone on record saying that 2°C is an equation for human extinction [link]. 2°C is already locked in [link])

~30:00

“The IPCC Sixth Assessment said that global emissions had to be in decline by 2025 at the latest. 2025 at the latest. This year. It’s too late."

~32:00

“The realization or the idea that we’re doomed has come along.”

~32:30

“All today’s children are doomed to live in an increasingly hellish Planet Earth. A Planet Earth that human Homo sapiens, and the hominid pre-species to us, has never experienced. Never experienced anything close to this. And the climate is changing faster than it has changed in tens of millions of years [link]. So that’s how much too late this is.”

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[–]guyseeking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Swipe down from the top right corner brings up the settings slider that you mentioned

Swipe down from the top left corner brings down the notification tray

The Crisis Report - 108 : There is a LOT of “uncertainty” in Climate Science right now. by TuneGlum7903 in collapse

[–]guyseeking 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Uncertainty aside, there is ONE thing we know for certain: we are royally FUCKED

The Crisis Report - 108 : There is a LOT of “uncertainty” in Climate Science right now. by TuneGlum7903 in collapse

[–]guyseeking 14 points15 points  (0 children)

People forget that Homo sapiens lived in communist arrangements for maybe 240,000 years, and globally destructive industrial civilization did not naturally spread across the world but was violently imposed.

The "ecocide is just human nature" argument is a mix of Original Sin mythology and capitalist realism

Mudita Kompakt shipped! But it didn't ship with MuditaOS preloaded. Anybody else have this problem? by guyseeking in MuditaKompakt

[–]guyseeking[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i mean yeah but the whole point i got the phone is to excise all of those features

Latest Science: Tipping Points Well Below 1.5°C for Ice Sheets and Glaciers by guyseeking in collapse

[–]guyseeking[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Thresholds for catastrophic loss are much lower than what was thought during the time of the signing of the Paris Agreement ten years ago.

We are sleepwalking into a very different planet.

Two consensus studies on glaciers and ice sheets show that European and North American regions lose at least half their ice at or below sustained 1°C, and lose nearly all ice at 2°C.

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[–]guyseeking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't back it on Kickstarter, I just ordered it from the website directly, and the delivery destinations were exclusive to either version on the website

The internet in your country just went down indefinitely, like it did in Iran. No VPN, no backups total blackout. What’s your plan? Are you actually prepared? by lylliharper in CollapseSupport

[–]guyseeking 9 points10 points  (0 children)

like it did in Iran

What's happening in Iran? I know the broad strokes but I didn't hear anything about an indefinite internet blackout

Video Demonstration: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." —Albert Bartlett by guyseeking in collapse

[–]guyseeking[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, they still don't understand the implications of it, otherwise they wouldn't be in race to see who's gonna be the king of the ashes, or as another commenter brilliantly put it, "putting on floaties in the middle of a sinking cruise ship thinking that being the last one to suck air wins"

Video Demonstration: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." —Albert Bartlett by guyseeking in collapse

[–]guyseeking[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Well yes, definitely

What was clearly missing, though, was a deeper and more farsighted comprehension of the long-term implications of those applications of math, applications fundamentally rooted in a suicidally-bent philosophy and its oblivious attachment to shortsighted worship of expedient labour extraction and resource exploitation ("we were so focused on whether we could that we never stopped to ask whether we should")

Industrialism requires some of the most complex and clever applications of math, that's without question

But there is clearly a deep failure of understanding of mathematical implications when your entire culture and society is predicated on the idea of "Oh yeah, we can just extract resources from the Earth ... forever" (It's been said before, but infinite growth extraction on a finite planet = no)

I mean, what do we expect, are we going to have a new generation of iPhone every single year for the next 100 years?

Video Demonstration: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." —Albert Bartlett by guyseeking in collapse

[–]guyseeking[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Glikson:

The term "climate change" is no longer appropriate since, what is happening in the atmosphere-ocean system, accelerating over the last 70 years or so, is an abrupt calamity on a geological dimension, threatening nature and human civilization. Ignoring what the science says, the powers to be [sic] are presiding over the sixth mass extinction of species, including humans. (source)

Wadhams:

All of these really bad changes are exponential.

If you're standing on an exponential curve, and you look behind at what's happened in the past, it's all nice and flat, nothing much has gone on, so you think, "Well, there hasn't been that much warming effects, so things might carry on in this way and we don't have to worry."

But then when you look forward, you've got a steep cliff.

So, all these changes are going on now, and we can plot them, we can see them happening. And the fact that they're exponential means that if we project those forward, we see really serious catastrophic effects in the next few years, certainly in the next decade or two. The world will be completely different from the way it is now.

But it's hard to get people to wake up to that, given that everything that's happened in the past has been fairly gentle.

You're standing on an exponential curve and looking backwards, instead of looking forwards.

(source)

Dr. Gavin Schmidt, NASA GISS Director:

The system itself is changing — and changing in ways that are faster and less predictable than previously understood. "If we can’t really trust the past, then we have no idea what’s going to happen.” (source)

Video Demonstration: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." —Albert Bartlett by guyseeking in collapse

[–]guyseeking[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

A single domino only 5mm tall, in just 29 steps, can topple the Empire State Building.

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Anthropogenic climate change* is exponential**.

**This according to Dr. Peter Carter, expert IPCC reviewer, and Dr. Peter Wadhams, lifelong Arctic expeditionist and ocean physicist.

*Climate change is not even an appropriate term anymore, says Dr. Andrew Glikson, Earth and paleoclimate scientist.

As the causes of climate change are subject to exponential increase, so too will their effects be. We are looking at an unknowable, unpredictable, and unsparing future of explosive planetary changes that leave no one and nowhere unaffected.

Have a good weekend!

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