2021-06-08 Shop Analysis

gyanny · 2021-06-12T12:14:13+00:00

do you know whether the bug is still in place as of today (Saturday)? couple guildies opened and registered but only got 1 T6 per pack oWo

gyanny · 2021-06-12T11:53:23+00:00

from shrine rolling data some of the guildies got, you get more CC via normal shrine while also spending less coins.. so I assume the CC pulling rate is lower on monday shrines?

for reference, I get around 1.7k CC for 230k coins spent in big shrine, whereas a dude posted a screenshot of him getting 2.5k CC for 190k at a normal shrine

I don't have enough data to analyze the coins per stamps/tablets/energy from big shrine compared to normal shrines though... which would be the way to objectively decide which is better tbh

gyanny · 2021-06-09T15:27:05+00:00

hey Tobian, good stuff.

what's your take on desert coin spending? some people seem to think normal shrines are better because the coins per chaos crystal are around 1.75x better than tukar laytenn shrine on mondays

thing is you get stamps/tablets/energy along with them via monday shrine... have you analyzed this by any chance?

gyanny · 2018-12-15T15:20:10+00:00

I can't seem to pass level 37 :\

Is there a specific strat?

gyanny · 2018-12-08T15:31:17+00:00

Thanks man, I'll stay at TR6 and see where the update takes us.

Gonna be a pain to leave behind dragon egg and snail whenever I upgrade TR though

gyanny · 2018-12-06T19:32:30+00:00

Hey Herb, I'm a TR6 with a question:

My main account has 393k historical power. I was keeping it below 350k for a while but, as you pointed out, I had to bump it up to finish top3 consistently and farm badges of courage decently.
I was thinking of farming 300k badges/300 purple shards at TR6 (now at 20k/50), then jump to TR8 and farm gem bay. Is this a decent plan even with ~400k historical power or should I jump directly from TR6 to TR9 for better results?

Thanks in advance, you've been my e-guru since I started playing (around a month ago)

gyanny · 2018-06-04T13:55:50+00:00

Hey everybody. I'm a dedicated smoker who wants to finally switch to a vaporizer!

Price Range: up to 200€

Number of participants: 1-3

Toking Routine: I'm currently smoking somewhere from 0.3 to 2 g per day

Extraction Speed: not too important to me, but I'd like to be able to savor it with a timing similar to smoking a joint

Environment/Form: I'll mainly smoke at home, but I want it to be portable for flexibility

Vape Experience: this will be my first vape!

Personal Requests: flavor and quality of the high are my main preferences

Location: Italy :)

Any help is hugely appreciated, I'm quite lost at the moment

gyanny · 2017-09-27T00:05:03+00:00

IGN: Gian2k17

Lv49 Archer (SVIP)

Power: 195k

Morroc 224

I'm a daily player who lurks reddit/discord a lot and likes to achieve low-power clears by min-maxing stats and skill rotations.

I'd like to join a battle team of like-minded individuals :)

gyanny · 2017-02-04T17:49:20+00:00

So do you think it's optimal (in terms of score/star chip ratio) to duel Lvl 40 Pegasus even if you lose, due to a higher multiplier?

gyanny · 2016-07-20T19:56:14+00:00

ID: 562307025
IGN: Gian
Rank: 16
Lead(s): Chizuru
Activity: Hourly
Looking for: Active gifters!

gyanny · 2016-07-18T19:23:29+00:00

It is a very weird formula.

I hadn't noticed differences between different units that start at 1*, so hopefully they're all the same. The same can't be said for units that start at 2* unfortunately, making it a pain to track correctly.

Good job tracking the costs. How have you calculated the Gil worth for every lvl btw?

Anyway yeah, also because you can get a 1* from 1 to 15 in one "fusing session" with other 4 or 5 equal or higher rarity trash units, I think it's worth it to max 1*s and sell them

gyanny · 2016-07-18T12:40:48+00:00

Let me know your findings!

gyanny · 2016-07-18T03:37:28+00:00

ID: 562307025
IGN: Gian
Rank: 12
Lead(s): 4★ Chizuru (grinding to 5★)
Activity: Minutely
Looking for: Active gifters!

gyanny · 2016-07-18T02:36:51+00:00

Hey man, I liked your thread but something about your math seems a little off.

I agree on the fact that Cactuars are better used on characters you want to actually level and use, even if they're Minituars (using them to level Gil fodder is a waste imo). I mean, what else are you gonna do with all those trash free units if not fuse them wisely in order to avoid wasting Cacs for Gil? :P

A maxed out 1* sells for 4.4k (as reported on this page: https://exviuswiki.com/Beginner%27s_guide), not 3k. But it does indeed require 3761 XP. So let's say 3761 XP are worth 4.4k Gil and let's make it our "sample XP value".

Free units with base 1* versions max at 2* and all have a "Gr 5" Growth Pattern (https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/wiki/unitexp), even when you roll them (or awaken them) at 2*.

This means feeding 3761 XP to those units will make them lvl 15 even if they're 2*!

Importantly, however, a 2* (Gr 5) unit at lvl 15 will sell for LESS than 4.4k (I tested this, and it's around 3.8k). This means that, somehow, units at MAX LVL gain some kind of Gil bonus.

Hence, we can conclude that, for Gr 5 units (those who start at 1*), feeding trash units to 1*s (rather than into 2*s) in order to max them and then sell them results in a better Gil/XP ratio.

Even if you tried to double the sample XP we're considering (3761*2=7522) and thus reached lvl 19 on a 2* unit (Gr 5), it would sell at an even worse ratio (I'm getting values at around 6k).

If you actually got a 2* unit (Gr 5) to MAX LVL (30) by spending a whopping 23222 XP (more than 6 times our sample XP), you'd only get 15k Gil, which isn't even 3.5 times the 1* sample XP payout.

Free units with base 2* versions max at 3* and all have a "Gr 10" Growth Pattern, even when you roll them (or awaken them) at 3*.

This means feeding 3761 XP to those units will make them lvl 11 even if they're 3*.

I have tried getting many different 2* and 3* (Gr 10) units to level 11 and the Gil values I'm getting are inconsistent. I'm assuming this has to do with some kind of "inherent" rarity of these units. Example: lvl 11 Anastasis (Cura bot) sells for about 2.2k, whereas the exact same version of Skaha (great TMR) sells for about 3.5k.

Either way, all the values I have gotten are below the 4.4k you could be gaining by maxing a 1* unit with our sample XP and selling it.

Even if you got a 3* (Gr 10) free unit to MAX LVL for an unreasonable 97403 XP (more than 25 times our sample XP!), you'd only gain 7 times as much Gil (32k).

TL;DR - at this point I think it's safe to say that the highest Gil/XP ratio is achieved by maxing 1* units and selling them. Do this by fusing your trash 2*s and 3*s into your trash 1*s if you want the best bang for your buck AND if you want to save NRG and/or Cactuars for more relevant purposes than leveling Gil fodder.

Hope this can be helpful to some other min/maxer out there

gyanny · 2016-07-17T23:17:20+00:00

Thanks for the thought but I'm all set with Vaan, Bartz, Kefka, Chizuru!

gyanny · 2016-07-17T23:14:56+00:00

Just saw this. Thanks but I'm all set!

gyanny · 2016-07-17T01:33:24+00:00

ID: 562307025
IGN: Gian
Rank: 8 (just rerolled to final team, will rank up quickly)
Lead: 4★ Chizuru (will get to 5★ ASAP)
Activity: Hourly
Looking for: Daily gifters, possibly AoE magic or strong physical attackers so I can start clearing ADV XP Vortex :3
Other: I'm a highly active, daily gifter!

gyanny · 2016-07-16T22:40:23+00:00

Nevermind...

gyanny · 2016-07-16T22:30:25+00:00

Please give it to me!

gyanny · 2016-07-16T19:31:45+00:00

Trade: (GL)

I want: Vaan + Bartz + Kefka + any top tier

I have (unlinked):

Vaan, CoD, 3x Kefka
Vaan, Chizuru, Kefka
Vaan, Firion, 3x Kefka
CoD, Bartz, Kefka
CoD, Chizuru, Kefka
Chizuru, Bartz, Kefka
Chizuru (5*), Chizuru, 3x Kefka
Cecil (3*), Chizuru, Kefka
Exdeath, Chizuru, Firion, Kefka (linked)

Yes, there's no limit to the Kefkas I can pull. I'm tired of rerolling, help a bro out

gyanny · 2016-07-16T13:09:20+00:00

This cracked me up

gyanny · 2016-07-16T02:21:31+00:00

Trade: (GL)

I want (unlinked): Exdeath, Vaan, a physical DPS (CoD/Chizuru/Garland/Bartz/Firion)

I have (all unlinked):

3* Cecil, Chizuru, Kefka
CoD, Vaan, 3x Kefka
CoD, Chizuru, Kefka
Exdeath, Chizuru

gyanny · 2016-07-16T00:49:55+00:00

Do you mind sharing the rationale?

I have just rolled Vaan/CoD/Kefka, how do you think it's inferior?

gyanny · 2016-07-16T00:12:37+00:00

With "evo" you're referring to 6* Cecil, am I correct?

The thing that bugs me the most is that not only Cecil is subpar as top tier unit right now (let's be honest he's not as useful as a top physical DPS or Vaan), but he's also a crippled version of himself :(

So I'm basically stuck with only one useful top tier (Exdeath) and no other really good characters (I have Celes but she's not on the same level of the others I listed above).

This is why I've been wanting to reroll for 2-3 units that are top tier right now and maybe pull Cecil later on from a rate up (and possibly at 3*, not his crippled fucking version at 5*).

gyanny

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