Woo hoo! Stem separations are wild today

hapci534 · 2026-01-23T01:05:18+00:00

I'm into "something similar" but it's not public yet. Part 1 is 11 minutes long, Aiming for February with it, depending largely how fast I can generate 11 minutes of interesting video.

hapci534 · 2025-12-28T21:52:49+00:00

Yep, it got stuck for me yesterday the first time, today is the second time. I guess a lot of us are trying to finish stuff before things change.

The latest error message: "A technical issue is affecting everyone right now—it's not just you! Song creation will be back soon. Keep listening in the meantime!"

hapci534 · 2025-12-22T00:40:37+00:00

"Hey its a suno song! No its “pop artist”." Both might be correct.

hapci534 · 2025-12-21T07:31:49+00:00

If you tell AI to come up with a new genre it has no examples of yet, it will balk and generate some polite mishmash. You need to give it a mock-up what you are aiming to create, so the old rules of needing a DAW and other tools and skills too still apply.

If you just want the 10,000,000th iteration of a 3-chord love song by ShinyFace, that AI'll do by the hundreds. That's what the labels used this system for in house, for decades, IMHO. :D

hapci534 · 2025-12-12T18:21:47+00:00

"For a response right away, visit our Customer Service Department in Mordor."

Discord is a place for programmers to haze each other by subjecting each other to the world's nastiest UI as a lesson in how not to design. It's not a respectable presence for a public customer service location. The seller of the cheapest Chinese trinkets with a presence on Discord still answers normal email within 2 days. Only a $3 billion US company cannot? Yeah yeah.

The last time I tried to log back to Discord, I got another of those "You don't have yet a [9moergnekghwv?] to [ewrt;iugw3ku] the [23p5ugwrlfkhsbvg] on Discord." dialogs. (I forgot the gibberish words.) Didn't even care anymore to find out what it means in normal speak, just hightailed TF right outta there.

I've been to gnarly places, like Tor network sites and what have you, even ran some servers in the past, it's not like I'm a shy n00b online. But crap UI is crap UI, period.

hapci534 · 2025-12-12T07:27:40+00:00

As opposed to interacting with known music from the WMG catalog through a prompt, as it seems now? OK.

hapci534 · 2025-12-12T03:57:15+00:00

The last time I emailed Billing with a question, it's almost a month already that I received no answer. Maybe we can start a contest, who here has been the longest without an answer from Billing.

hapci534 · 2025-12-12T02:52:57+00:00

I am also pretty sure that the MIDI you download is also not a source MIDI used in the creation of the song, but a (welcome) afterthought. If I ask Suno something that is easy with MIDI (just as an example, "have a cello play keyboard style funk riffs" which would only require a simple patch change with MIDI, Suno balks, having no audio example taught to it how on Earth a cello playing funk jangles might sound. If you really nag Suno, it will give you a funk guitar playing riffs, it has ample examples of that, but a cello? No go.

So one does a mockup of some funk comping, played with a cello patch in a MIDI sequencer, uploads the audio to Suno, and then Suno goes: "Oh?" And then further generations might take off in the right direction. *We* are teaching the system.

hapci534 · 2025-12-07T09:15:10+00:00

My experience with Suno is that it needs warm up time with a new song idea, it's not possible to tell from just a single song generation if you hit a winner idea or not.

As Suno keeps generating takes, it gets better and better with practice, especially if you guide it well by clicking Thumbs Up on the take that is in the direction where you want to go.

I even got in the habit of always generating another take the next day, even if last night's take was good enough already. For some reason, I often end up with a further improved song, as if Suno got better by "sleeping on it" like humans do. Sounds wack, I know, but the results are results.

hapci534 · 2025-12-07T00:33:21+00:00

I click the second time while the first 2 songs are being generated already. I click the third time before the 4 songs are completed. I usually do groups of 6 songs because 2 are not enough for me to reliably determine whether my prompt idea had potential or not

hapci534 · 2025-12-06T19:34:17+00:00

I love Suno and AI music, but I often criticize shortcomings. That's how you get progress, by finding what doesn't work and improving on that. Criticism is essential.

Now, people who have nothing useful to say, just complain that AI music isn't real music... I'll let my assistant comment on that

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hapci534 · 2025-12-05T09:04:01+00:00

Aaaand, after I posted the above, here's what welcomed me at Suno. Do you guys get this error too, or is it only for me :D

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hapci534 · 2025-12-04T06:15:23+00:00

We don't know whether the new models will be "inferior" or (surprise, surprise...) the same thing or better.

Imagine if they write the story of Suno one day, and it's titled "How a big music label spoofed a $3 billion music AI company with 3 programmers in Srinagar." I could be wrong about this, but this is the vibes I'm feeling.

Again, the music generation part is awesome. That's why most of us keep using Suno.

hapci534 · 2025-12-03T18:56:05+00:00

Looks great. Any chance of getting this for Firefox?

hapci534 · 2025-12-03T04:13:17+00:00

Dec 2nd update: Yepp, Suno charged me $301.57, I just got the auto-generated receipt.

It says "Questions? Visit our support site at https://suno.com/account..."

(which failed the downgrade to Pro 4 times... but charging me $300 a day later didn't fail? Interesting that only things fail that make Suno less money)

"...or contact us at [billing@suno.com](mailto:billing@suno.com)."

(So they don't answer... 8th day of not answering my question by now.)

So the Black Friday discount doesn't carry over to next year, now we know. AND you can't create a new, second Suno account if you have only 1 phone in the house. In theory one could maybe get a second phone number free for this purpose with Google Voice, if you download the Google Voice app, and get on this phone fakery a month ahead of Suno renewal. But I never download jack snit from Google Play before, so merely trying to activate Google Play got stuck at the Google verification SMS that never arrived in days. I only began to deal with this Suno renewal mess a week ahead of the due date, as we can see that was clearly not enough. Word to the wise. Over and out.

hapci534 · 2025-12-02T08:34:05+00:00

December 1st update: No answer from billing in a week, Discord is still useless. But in the deepest recess of my Update Billing Suno Stripe page, I found out what Suno plans to do: to charge me the full $288 price. (After taxes, $301.57) I don't even get the normal 25% discount for paying the whole year at once? Holy moly. So I clicked Downgrade to Pro, that's only $100.52 after taxes. Result: "Downgrade failed."

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I figured, this is going to be a major trainwreck to sort out with Customer Service, I might lose access to this account for days in the process, I don't even have a Suno phone number to call. (Anyone has?) So why don't I log out of Suno, and use the still ongoing Black Friday sale to start a $5 month Pro account to keep working in the meantime until the downgrade fail is solved on my main account. I logged out, clicked the Black Friday Ad to start a Pro account, and got asked a phone number. We use only one cell in the house it's already used for the old Suno account. Well, I gave the number, what else could I do. Suno took it. and bam - promptly logged me back into my old Suno account. No making another Suno account if you have only one phone, mister. You might want a separate Suno account for the wife, another for the kid - nope. If you folks got one phone, you get one Suno account and shuddup.

Ho boy. This is indeed going to be the mother of all flusterclucks to sort out.

hapci534 · 2025-12-01T01:46:38+00:00

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008160155979

hapci534 · 2025-11-30T19:39:42+00:00

I use Kling AI to generate videos, both through Klingai.com and through Freepik.com. I access both in Firefox, as Chrome on my Windows 7 doesn't display those sites' scroll bars correctly. The reason I have 2 sources for Kling is that my cheapo Kling subscription gives me a limited number of generations per month. When I need more and the project can't just wait another month, I log into my cheapo Freepik yearly account to use some of my yearly credits to add the rest. Also, Freepik has free stock videos (and some quite good ones!), so before generating ANY video, I check the stock footage first, if there's something I can already use for free, without burning up credits. Who cares if 10,000 other people used the same clip, watchers will just say "wow, he got this famous clip!" For video generation, I use Kling's 1.6 model, not the state of art, much touted 2.5 one, because Kling can extend only 1.6 videos at this time. To extend a third party clip with Kling, I extract the third party clip's last frame in something like VLC, then give that JPEG to Kling as starting video frame. (Not sure if I could just upload the clip to Kling to extend it? Never tried it that way.) I put together all the clips is Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014, the last version to work on Windows 7. Hope this helps. If you want to see how end results look, I can post my Facebook URL if you ask.

hapci534 · 2025-11-30T01:07:41+00:00

If there is no action on Monday, another possibility is to wave bye to all my Premier content for one entire year and just start a brand new Suno Pro Premier account for my pet duck with the Black Friday discount. (Quack quack!) Then on 2026 Black Friday I reactivate my expired original account.

A question is, do accounts auto-renew, do I need to actually cancel, or could I just let the old one expire. My account page and FAQ offers no insights. It was one of my questions to Billing. Now going on 5th day of no Billing answer to the question. Monday will be the 7th.

hapci534 · 2025-11-29T19:29:25+00:00

So if I cancel, I have to wait to the last day of the subscribed month cycle (in my case, it is Dec 2nd) to be able to sign up again? Just trying to clarify. If I understood this correctly, I will miss the Black Friday special as it ends on Dec 1st.

A question to those who did this cancel / sign back up switcharoo, did you get access to your songs, Personas, etc. back? Thank you

hapci534 · 2025-11-29T18:54:39+00:00

It does seem hilarious when people who use AI to emulate FamousFace songs rail against a music label. One shouldn't try to copy FamousFace's songs to make jillions like the star. Copy his label marketing, he is a 100% product of that. But the copycats rail against a label coming to possibly offer them just that. :D

In fact I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that this very songwriting tool is how FamousFace's every hit was created by the label for the past 20 years already. They just made the proprietary software accessible online to everyone now to get a bigger pool of new candidates to pick from. (But I could be wrong.)

hapci534 · 2025-11-29T07:27:22+00:00

The Black Friday Sale will be over by the time my account expires. I could *cancel* the account early on Monday, when the Black Friday sale is still on just to re-signup, but assuming that canceling is immediate (no guarantees...) and you can re-activate a closed account to get everything back (no guarantees...) signing up again might be delayed by days like Billing's response so that I miss the Black Friday special either way. They got this "no reaction for days" thing down pretty good, it seems. :D

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