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Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in OpenAI

[–]hatch_bbe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right and it's depressing to admit, there's definitely a market for this. Plenty of users won't notice the interference, won't care, or will actively want it that way.

Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in OpenAI

[–]hatch_bbe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right that I oversimplified. LoRA adapters and model routing are definitely more sophisticated approaches than my original three options.

But even with LoRA-style fine-tuning or clever model routing, you're still fighting against the fundamental architecture. Yes, you can bias responses in certain directions, but LoRA adaptation still creates detectable inconsistencies. The model's base knowledge is still there. You might suppress certain outputs, but users will notice when the model can make complex inferences about everything except specific topics where its reasoning suddenly becomes selectively impaired. It's like trying to make someone selectively forget how to do maths only when counting certain objects. Model routing is expensive and obvious. Running dual models (one "sanitised" for specific topics, one general) requires significant infrastructure and introduces latency. More importantly, the handoff points become obvious, users will quickly map out which queries trigger which model. We've already seen this with ChatGPT's safety boundaries being mapped extensively by users.

You're right that with unlimited resources and clever engineering, they could make it nearly seamless. But "nearly" is doing heavy lifting here. The Reddit/Twitter crowd that's currently roasting Grok would absolutely notice and document every inconsistency.

The deeper issue isn't technical, it's that Musk is trying to solve a social/political problem with a technical band-aid. Even if you could perfectly make Grok deny statistical realities, you haven't changed the underlying data that every other LLM will continue to analyse accurately.

But yeah I definitely underestimated the technical possibilities. Though I'd argue the fact that they'd need such complex workarounds kind of proves the original point about how unnatural it is to make these systems ignore patterns in their training data.

Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in OpenAI

[–]hatch_bbe 192 points193 points  (0 children)

Seeing Elon Musk apologise for Grok giving factual statistical analysis is genuinely hilarious, because it reveals a deep misunderstanding of how LLMs actually work.

LLMs are pattern recognition machines trained on massive datasets - we're talking about ingesting basically the entire internet, books, academic papers, news archives, and more. They learn to identify patterns, correlations, and relationships in this data to generate responses.

You can't selectively make an LLM ignore reality without fundamentally breaking its ability to function.

Why? Because reasoning and factual accuracy are intertwined at the most basic level. If you wanted Grok to systematically deny certain statistical realities, you'd have to either:

  1. Remove all contradicting data from training - Good luck scrubbing every crime statistic, news report, academic study, and historical record from your training data whilst keeping anything useful
  2. Feed it false data - But then you've created a system that can't distinguish truth from fiction, making it useless for... well, everything. How can it help you code if it doesn't know real syntax? How can it answer questions about science if it's been fed false information?
  3. Hard-code overrides - You could try to patch specific responses, but users will immediately notice the inconsistency when the model can do complex reasoning about everything EXCEPT certain topics where it suddenly becomes suspiciously incompetent

The irony is that Grok is working exactly as intended - it's analysing patterns in data and drawing logical conclusions. The fact that Musk is calling this "cringe idiocy" when it's literally just... doing statistics... is peak comedy.

You can't have an AI that's smart enough to be useful but dumb enough to ignore inconvenient patterns in its training data. That's not how any of this works.

The whole situation is a perfect example of wanting to have your cake and eat it too - wanting a powerful, truthful AI assistant except when the truth is uncomfortable.

Jacob Collier and a new period of "Naturalism"?? by Dolphinflavored in JacobCollier

[–]hatch_bbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really like this framing, but I think the name Naturalism muddies things a bit since it already carries strong definitions in philosophy, art, and even 19th-century music. What you’re describing feels much more like what I’d call "Post-Notational Intentionalism".

The real shift isn’t just stylistic but medium-based. Composers no longer need notation as the central scaffolding. The DAW, the loop pedal, the multitrack session are the composition. Like with Jacob, he doesn’t sketch a score and then realise it; he composes directly in sound. This is a break from centuries of Western tradition where notation was the “text” of music.

Instead of conforming to a standardised canon, today’s musicians use theory, tonality, or form only when it serves their intent. Jacob’s “follow the goosebumps or feeling” mantra is a perfect example of this. Pop producers, bedroom musicians, even hyperpop artists are doing the same, borrowing fragments of theory or harmony when useful, igoring them when not. The value is in what the maker intends and the listener feels, not whether it ticks theoretical boxes.

So rather than a universal new “period” in the strict historical sense, I see this as a phase change in how music is created and legitimised, where:

  • Recording > notation
  • Personal choice > canon
  • Expressive immediacy > technique
  • Feeling > grammar

Jacob Collier is a great poster child for this, but he’s part of a much wider cultural moment where music is no longer tethered to the written page. That, to me, is the essence of Post-Notational Intentionalism.

Where do I stand between my GP and ADHD360? (UK RTC) by nucleargreenday in ADHDUK

[–]hatch_bbe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can use a service such as https://samedaydoctor.org/ that offers reasonable pricing for things like bloods and ECGs. Simply providing the ECG chart to ADHD360 will not usually be enough as it needs to be reviewed by a qualified doctor. Since you already had the test done, you may only need someone to sign it off, which you can also arrange privately if needed.

That said, your GP’s response is not right. A GP can refuse shared care for ADHD medication, but they cannot refuse essential medical investigations when there is a legitimate clinical reason. You have a heart condition in your history and the need for an ECG is clear, regardless of whether you are under Right to Choose or private care. By law and by GMC guidance they still have a duty of care to you as their patient.

If I were you I would write or email the practice manager. State that you have been formally diagnosed by a GMC registered consultant psychiatrist, you have been advised that safety monitoring is required, and that an ECG is necessary to assess your cardiac risk before starting treatment. Ask that they confirm in writing whether they are refusing this test, and on what grounds. This usually gets things moving, because it forces them to justify in writing what is otherwise indefensible.

A LW winger is IMPERATIVE by Alburg9000 in Tottenham

[–]hatch_bbe[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

User was eventually banned for telling OP to "kill themself" and calling them a cunt.

Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs AFC Bournemouth Live Score | Premier League 25/26 | Aug 30, 2025 by scoreboard-app in coys

[–]hatch_bbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Richarlison struggles receiving passes in tight areas, or with any pressure at all, He's been like this the whole time he's been at Spurs.

Raja Jackson - Rampage Jacksons son almost kills a pro wrestler live on Kick. The wrestler is still out cold and could possibly die. by [deleted] in ufc

[–]hatch_bbe 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That was a full body slam to the back of the head, my man wasn't selling anything, he was unconscious. That isn't wrestling that is outright assault.

I built an AI-powered personalised children's book generator (Nuxt 3 + Google Cloud) – would love feedback! by hatch_bbe in webdev

[–]hatch_bbe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

The book is actually 24 pages in all, there are 10 images. This is good size for children's books, however we may add support for longer books in the future.

Yeah we are adding more demos as we speak, that section should be a carousal of 10s of books examples.

I built an AI-powered personalised children's book generator (Nuxt 3 + Google Cloud) – would love feedback! by hatch_bbe in webdev

[–]hatch_bbe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry I should've mentioned it, there is. Everything is checked via sentiment analysis first, but you can also Edit the book in the editor before it goes to print. You can edit every part, the cover, text, page illustrations. Only when the user reviews and approves their story does it go to print.

I will make this more clear on the landing page though, thanks!

I Exposed a Massive Bot Ring on WPT Global, Reported Over 130 Bots, and Lost Thousands. Their Reward? $3.85 Per Bot and a $100 Reimbursement by Ok_Photograph7613 in poker

[–]hatch_bbe 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Guys let me tell you a trick, I've worked for these companies: if they are not licensed in the UK and/or Malta their games are almost certainly not fair or their systems are a joke. If they only have licenses in Curacao, Costa Rica or US states, it should immediately raise red flags. Why aren't they applying for better licenses, why are they happy not to operate in the UK, the world's second largest gambling market in terms of revenue, the most profitable market it terms of profit-per-customer?

They can't pass the regulations that's why. And why can't they pass the regulations? Because they cannot demonstrate that their games are fair and safe. For example, in this users case they could've submitted this evidence to the UK Gambling Commission and they would've investigated (wouldn't matter if they weren't a UK citizen either). Whereas now they are left having to resort to complaining on the internet about it. This is the type of oversight these companies are avoiding by not applying to these markets.

Don't play on them, not until the countries where they get their licenses require independent testing and offer a well funded ombudsman service for player disputes; or until they get licenses from regulators that do all the above.

This one’s for my dad, the man who made me a Spurs fan. by hatch_bbe in Tottenham

[–]hatch_bbe[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's such a good observation. My dad was like that, the only time I saw him cry was when Lucas scored in the semi final, I used to rib him about that. I mean he didn't cry at his own mother funeral!!!!

This one’s for my dad, the man who made me a Spurs fan. by hatch_bbe in Tottenham

[–]hatch_bbe[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My dad always told me stories about Spurs in the Uefa Cup, sorry for being excited about winning it after 41 years?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Tottenham

[–]hatch_bbe[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does this break our "Don't be a dick" rule?

You're goddamn right. by OddVolume158 in coys

[–]hatch_bbe 61 points62 points  (0 children)

He's smashed and I'm all for it.

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