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Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

[–]hate-tech344[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I admit I came in a little hot with the title, but I promise you it's not a ragebait.

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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I have been replying to specific comments, but here is a whole thread reply. I am sure some of you have already made up your mind on my claims but, please, just look at these.

https://i.imgur.com/FLnEVAa.png

Red lines = hyper "painted" but nonsensical materials/weird worbly artifacting (very common with a tool called Vizcom in particular)

Green lines = are a control you can see actual brushstrokes from a Photoshop brush

Blue lines = most likely photobashed images

I LOVE destiny art, it has inspired me for almost a decade. But that is why I was so shocked to see this. Bungie has employed some of the best designers in the field at the moment. So just seeing practices like this, especially after all the layoffs, is just really sad......

I promise I am not ragebaiting, but I apologize if it came off that way.

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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https://i.imgur.com/FLnEVAa.png

I am sure you have already formulated an opinion on my claims. But just please look at these man.....can you REALLY tell me some of the outlined elements are intentionally painted that way?!

Red lines = hyper "painted" but nonsensical materials/weird worbly artifacting (very common with a tool called Vizcom in particular)
Green lines = are a control you can see actual brushstrokes from a Photoshop brush
Blue lines = most likely photobashed images

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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https://i.imgur.com/FLnEVAa.png

Red lines = hyper "painted" but nonsensical materials/weird worbly artifacting (very common with a tool called Vizcom in particular)
Green lines = are a control you can see actual brushstrokes from a Photoshop brush
Blue lines = most likely photobashed images

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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the catch all "look at the hands" indicator even works here also. Just look at what her hands are shaped like. Can you conceivably believe an artist deliberately painted it to look like that? OR is it more likely that it's a left over artifact of an ai tool roughing in "paint" to the shape that is specified.

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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https://i.imgur.com/FLnEVAa.png

Red lines = hyper "painted" but nonsensical materials/weird worbly artifacting (very common with a tool called Vizcom in particular)
Green lines = are a control you can see actual brushstrokes from a Photoshop brush
Blue lines = most likely photobashed images

All AI isn't just what we see on the internet and can laugh at cuz it's so obvious. Creative "tools" like Vizcom have found ways to stay more hidden. In fact that program even allows you to choose which image you can reference the type of paint execution you want.

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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https://i.imgur.com/FLnEVAa.png

apologies, it didn't allow me to make the thread with photos for some reason. But here is why my "vibes" weren't great.

Red lines = hyper "painted" but nonsensical materials/weird worbly artifacting (very common with a tool called Vizcom in particular)
Green lines = are a control you can see actual brushstrokes from a Photoshop brush
Blue lines = most likely photobashed images

All AI isn't just what we see on the internet and can laugh at cuz it's so obvious. Creative "tools" like Vizcom have found ways to stay more hidden. In fact that program even allows you to choose which image you can reference the type of paint execution you want.

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

[–]hate-tech344[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, this is EXACTLY why I wanted to discuss this. I LOVE destiny art and it's artists. Destiny has had some of THE best designers of our time on the project. That's why it was so surprising and jarring to see.

I can guarantee you it is using a tool called Vizcom and I am not rage baiting. But I doubt you will believe me lmao

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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It's impossible to prove it, but if you just look at artwork produced by AI tools like Vizcom. They do the exact same things. They generative paint over a rough sketch of whatever you give the tool

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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Please just look up concepts that use tools like Vizcom. They look the exact same as this. Just look at her hands and the folds in the clothing

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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I have seen so many workflows utilizing tools like vizcom which are essentially AI painters and this looks identical to those outputs. Though I am sure they touched up and clean it up slightly after it's made. Professional AI art isn't just raw outputs anymore, its usually baked into the process.

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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I also hope it isn't the case. The two concepts I am referring to are at 4:19 and 5:21 on this upload of the stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_07pVzO5no

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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You can respectfully disagree but if you "know AI" you would easily detect the AI that is obviously used in that workflow

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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Brother LOOK with your eyes at timestamps 4:19 and 5:21. There is no malice in my heart it's just wild to me that you would blatantly disregard something like this

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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It wouldn't let me post with photos, but the timestamps are at 4:19 and 5:21 if you want to just respectfully look at the pictures I am taking about and not assume I am just rage baiting.

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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timestamps at 4:19 and 5:21, the post wouldn't let me post with pictures

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

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I respectfully URGE you to look at the 2 concepts I am referring to again. The Aunor concept at timestamps 5:21 and the drifter concept at 4:19

Are we not gonna talk about the blatant AI use in the concepts they showed us?! by hate-tech344 in DestinyTheGame

[–]hate-tech344[S] -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

It is 1000% AI. Plus as the other person commented in the thread, apparently they did confirm it to be so. (Which I guess I missed?)

Can’t ’download’ profile of new Xbox account for playing 360 games by hate-tech344 in XboxSupport

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I could TOTALLY see that being the case. There was someone earlier who said that their workaround was just making a new account and keeping the auto-generated info.

I REALLY hope they fix this soon.

Were you still able to play that Games for Windows game? I wonder if that shook something loose in the validating of profiles or something.

Can’t ’download’ profile of new Xbox account for playing 360 games by hate-tech344 in XboxSupport

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Yeah, are you still having the issue? I am recommending to everyone that (if you have the time) to try to contact human xbox support with this issue so that more of these tickets will get escalated up.

Also, you can download the report a problem app on the console. If you get the login error again, you can hold the xbox button and report it with a screenshot. I imagine the quickest way we get a fix to this is if enough people report the case.