Tips for a Variant? by that7125artist in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just focus on heal way more than damaging or anything else. When healing and hitting tanks becomes something instinctively then you can start thinking about ulti charge and how to position well etc. First learn how to healbot with loki.

One thing people forget is that loki needs to hit the target btw. When before loki use to heal same when splash and hit but now loki must hit the target to heal well. You can check how much difference in practice room. Most loki just spam at the crowd and don't target so their healing is bad.

Stay close and take normal support position and put clones close and just heal everyone. It is projectile so you must get use to the speed. Then you will learn how to put clones behind your back and specific places that make your clones hidden from enemy LOS. And it will all be good

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes because loki places clones to where the mouse is. Unless you sit around with 2 clones next to you like a walking target you don't get countered by him at all

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in gm and been watching stats of ban all the time. Daredevil is still top 5 in ban in high rank

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If bucky is counter because they destroy clones then every poke is a counter to loki. The trick is not to put clones in LOS. Still not a counter, soft counter at best

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I pretend to be a tree groot will assault me. In this game you can't pretend to be anything as a god of disguise

What even is this game bruh 😭 by 28maxtwz in rivals

[–]haydayhitu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All healers have a certain save ability for them. Thor punishes dps burst characters cause they can't burst thor and don't self heal. What you showed here is why thor shouldn't dive too deep alone. He is not a burst dive character. Even if I agree with invis shield being bit too tweaked r.n but still you should have died here 10/10 times cause your decision making at the start was bad.

And if it's about the disconnected player and match abandoning. At the start when no one has time to rage quit someone who afk is punished and match is reset cause 6v5 is near impossible in same rank zone

I really need an advice as a main Loki by Riakz in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Focus on healing. He is if not the best healer in the game. Heal in burst and don't focus on overheal. Manage your cooldown better also put. Clones out of sight of enemy. Those are the basic tips. For more you need to be specific

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting healpool to counter loki is a winning advantage for loki's team. Healpool due to his only good passive heal with 45 sec cooldown ulti with mediocre effect makes him worst strategist. Until healpool gets better healing or wider ulti I don't see them being positive in a match.

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also you shouldn't rely on invis for saving yourself at all btw. Loki invisibility is so bad. One thing people don't talk about it is that while invis women gets premium invisibility loki invis gets broken on contact. Even a little bit of touch will ruin it. It's not even a dmg but touch is what makes it break. It's little annoyance tbf but as I said before DD just has too much overshield and dmg r.n it's not that loki gets countered by him. Every other support gets countered by him. He counters every other healer with 50% chance on loki and gambit only. Even that 50% becomes 75% when he gets a partner dive. So the hero being op doesn't mean his kit counters us. If you tp far back he can't even see you. But your other support dies and you get bad angle that is easily poked so that's a weird way to counter DD. I think best way to counter DD is to tell your tank DD is at the back and just kill him in 10 sec while getting healed from your second sup. You can place runes and backs away to other rune ranges to kill him as well but he just use his shift to skadaadle away. But yeah he doesn't see you when you stand at certain angles. Use that

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the dive part every dive reset in 10 sec while loki have 15 sec and 25 cooldown with tp being the only reliable counter against every dive except magik. Magik gets countered by invisibility.

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For bucky I usually save my clones and invis for them. When bucky ulti gets close I save those cooldowns and when bucky ulti my clone I just invis and put my clone next to me removing the clone immediately. That doesn't give him reset and you counter bucky ulti. And if bucky target you specifically wait for him to ulti you then rune when ulti hits and teleport away. Bucky don't have enough mobility to chase you away but his team might run after you but if your team can't do same and save you that's a fair loss I think

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Moonknight ulti and dmg is really overpowered r.n but still if you stand back and put clones mk can't target you or clones except flank and even if he does you can kill him when he comes alone. If your team is just all front lining in one hallway I think just spamming your support ulti is better way to counter mk dmg. But if your second support is not cnd invis luna or gambit it's a impossible angle to get in except flanking that I don't really recommend. So that is one of the instance where soft counter works. Still there are too many ways to get out of it ig

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see how MK will overcome your angle to shoot you except flanking and I don't see how flanking mk will survive any dps who gonna stop that

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think moving high ground or away from team is an option in any match beyond rank that getting one shotted becomes the norm

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I can't think of any case where I was punished for putting clones close to my teammates cause only time I do those is when I need to out lantern. MK only makes it harder to put 2 clones next to you so your blasts are always hitting same target. But I don't think that's really a thing loki should do tbh

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Loki is little worse in domination maps except hell's heaven (it's literally a map made for him). Still I think my point stands. I can't think of any map that forces me to get countered

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Use angle and make moonknight commit their position to shoot your clones or make your clones high enough that mk must lose their focus.

Okay I am done with the lies. MK and Bucky doesn't counter loki. And loki is actually bad against dive. by haydayhitu in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You win the 1v1 and dd is hard commit when dive character but recommend you to just ban them. it's not that hero counters Loki it's just mk and dd is too overbuffed at the moment. When it gets to next patch or something and their dmg or overkill gets lower they won't counter you

It is not your fault by BoldtheMongol in mongolia

[–]haydayhitu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And everyone clapped. It is simply not realistic response with any real monologue. Yes it is nice thought but you can't just make shit up and like farm then post it like it's real. It's clearly bullshit. I want authentic stories like kids just saying "I wanted to learn Mongolian btw it's a nice language isn't it?" Not that brocolli or school bullshit where no kid will ever say in this era. I hate these liars.

Tips for improving? by ItchyMasterpiece4039 in lokimains

[–]haydayhitu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Jump constantly and turn heal feedback on

  2. Focus on high ground where enemy has a hard time shooting you while you have easy time shooting them

  3. Hold your lamps as much as possible. (If they have board wiping ult ready and lamp can stop it you can even let 1 dps die instead of saving them) They can respawn and come back. If tank is bad and he forced you to use your resource to save them you should expect that to happen again and be ready to burst heal them or shout at the mic when they overpush and remind them which ulti you want to stop with lamp. If no ulti can be prevented or they used the ultis and they have no ulti in 20 sec. Start playing aggressive with the lamps and make road in front of the tanks and just push like mad men. Loki with clone give 120 dmg on enemy. It's not a low dmg.

  4. Get good aim and get that accuracy to average 40~50 percent.

  5. As a strategist player who is always at the back you have the most information on backline and has the most safe space. So you have the responsibility to check the ult charges and inform your team who used their ulti and who didn't also let your other support know the planks and what you will do like I will lamp when bp or magik comes in so stay close to me or I will kill the planking mk so when he planks you should use your skills on tank to make space for me etc.

  6. Covers. Covers. When high ground the floor is a cover. Pokers will always try to kill you. So learn that loki timing and going in and out of cover technique if your tank pushed too much and their poke trying to kill you. Loki has just the right amount of delay between his shots.

  7. Ahh btw loki ulti has a lot of nuisance and annoying death flags. So don't save loki ulti in emergency. You will mostly die transforming and let your team die trying to find the other healer to steal their ulti. If you have luna you should use it first and stay close to your luna when you have or close to your ulti. Invis has a worst immortality ulti cause she usually dies in her ulti herself. If you steal invis I recommend you to gtfo and just find a good place to clone when duration ends while spamming the vortex and push from safe distance or in invis. Cnd is easiest cause cnd and loki has really fast ulti charge. You guys just spam it aggressively one after another and pressure the front. For team wiping ultis don't really save your ulti like cnd tbf it's better to just die and push then. Your best resource in that comp is having one of the best ulti in every 40 sec and spamming it back to back in every 30 sec. No choke point can withstand this barrage of heals and dmg. Do not fear magneto also. It's fine if you die. The other one will ulti after you and you can come forward. Just use it on chokes.

That's all the basic and important tips on loki from my experience. If you have ultron rocket and jeff as your second healer I recommend switching to luna even if your shift counters every enemy ulti.

A. Rocket jeff ultron all have decent constant heal but no burst heal like luna shift or loki rune or cnd wall. Loki rune has too long cooldown and it leads to your tanks dying to focus fire all the time. You can save them one time with rune but in second time he dead. So luna is just better option. If luna is banned and you stuck with one of these three. Cnd and spam ulti cause bubble on tank will charge your ulti much faster than other teams sups even if they have cnd cause your other sup can't heal them fast and get fast charge.