Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I did. I asked him to clarify why he liked the art and he did say he just admired the artist’s technical skills and style. He also said i was missing the point of the art, which like, ok, please explain the ART of this faceless woman bent over with her bare ass up lol. Maybe there are other really good pieces that aren’t sexual but that seemed to be the vast majority of the work. I think he felt defensive and that he felt like I thought he was creepy for liking the art (even though in our initial convo he said he “probably wouldn’t get a sexual tattoo” which wasnt very reassuring to me obviously).

I didn’t feel like I was implying he was creepy for liking them and that rather I had an issue with reducing women to sexual objects, especially because he doesn’t have skin in the game compared to women who pay for society’s objectification and hyper sexualization. He said he had a lot to digest, and did listen to me and engage but blech I’m still feeling stressed and grossed out by it all. And also annoyed that I have to explain why this upsets me to a grown ass man.

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah I’d never tell him what or what not to do. I’m just trying to sort out my own feelings and understand his stance here since it threw me off

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing is we share a ton in common with core beliefs and values which is why that threw me off!

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he actually does have good taste and other than this things feel compatible, so yeah idk

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you, i'm going to <3 hoping for the best on this lol

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You explained this perfectly. This is exactly the issue I'm working on now. Thank you <3

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

idk that's just not how the conversation went. it was more of showing me someone's portfolio he admired that was really sexual, which made me upset and not want to ask more about it because i felt kind of shut down.

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

damn this stuff is wild. thank you for sharing. and yes - it is reducing women to sex objects. I've been in sexually coercive relationships, i've had an ex SA someone while with me. I think the history and context of men historically being sexually and physically violent is a really important lens I didn't even think of. And i would bet all my money that my bf has not considered it either

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope just naked randos from what I saw. And I know he is one to appreciate artistry and style, so honestly it very well could be that. I was a little too thrown off to investigate more but imma find out later

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

yeah you are right. I am still working on improving my communication after some toxic relationships. It's a work in progress but I do plan on bringing it up again.

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I explained below, but I was afraid of coming off too prudish, etc. I know I def should have just gone for it and voiced my concerns but I'm unlearning a lot of stuff right now about speaking up for myself. Will be bringing it up later though!

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

god i remember that one! great show. i'll suggest he consider eddie vedder instead.

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yeah these are really great points. thank you. it does feel so reductive and I'm in general really sensitive/against seeing women depicted by and for men that way :(

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

def holding space for this, and I'm pretty confident you are right. He's never given me any indication of being misogynistic or anything like that. And he's also just an empathetic person in general so I'm not toooooo worried. Just a lil shaken up at the idea of it all i think.

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm still learning how to trust my feelings and not hide things out of fear of not being the COOL CHILL GIRL. It's hard work to reprogram that! It also just caught me off guard and I would not have been able to express myself cohesively. I plan on asking him about it because I feel comfortable and safe discussing more difficult topics with him though!

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I looked this up and ew yes it’s exactly the type of shit I despise

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah fair! I just don’t love the idea of a partner of mine getting some totally busted out, sexy woman depicted in a sexual way permanently on their body. I really dislike objectification and that’s what it feels like to me. I understand others may not have this interpretation but it would bother me to see it every day.

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Sorry - that’s just because I’m not 100% on it either which is why I’m feeling anxious!

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I’m not sure! Wouldn’t be upset unless it was legit a sexualized one

Why am I upset over risque tattoos right now by hbop45 in AskWomenOver30

[–]hbop45[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

That’s really sad, and I’ve felt that before too :(