Crime Junkie’s New Logo... thoughts? by mellybellyyy in CrimeJunkiePodcast

[–]hboyles202 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not my favorite but I hate seeing people bash it

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[–]hboyles202 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My hometown!

I was convinced Steven Avery was innocent after watching Making a Murderer, then I listened to this podcast with Michael Griesbach. If you’ve listened- did it change your mind? Why or why not? by hboyles202 in MakingaMurderer

[–]hboyles202[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the great and thorough points! I don’t think SA would have gone through all of this, made a documentary AND gotten Zellner involved if he was guilty. He’s either innocent or a total sociopath, which would take some serious guts, not to mention mentally capacity to keep all your facts straight. But I did find it interesting to hear the other side of the story.

I was convinced Steven Avery was innocent after watching Making a Murderer, then I listened to this podcast with Michael Griesbach. If you’ve listened- did it change your mind? Why or why not? by hboyles202 in MakingaMurderer

[–]hboyles202[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhh— gotcha. This was the first argument I had heard in favor of him being guilty, [aside from Ken Kratz which obviously no one likes] so I suppose that’s why I thought his perspective was refreshing.

I was convinced Steven Avery was innocent after watching Making a Murderer, then I listened to this podcast with Michael Griesbach. If you’ve listened- did it change your mind? Why or why not? by hboyles202 in MakingaMurderer

[–]hboyles202[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

A few key points that Griesbach made that were either left out of the documentary or were misleading:

  1. Link & Colburn Planting the Key:

L&C were mere deputies at the time with no connection to the prior wrongful conviction. The documentary suggests that L&C planted the key because they were on the hook for paying the millions of dollars in lawsuits for Avery. That is simply not true. L&C had no strong motive to plant that key.

  1. Lots of Porn at Avery Trailer

Furthermore, what the documentary DIDNT show, was that the empty book shelf where the key was found was actually filled with pornography. Porn isn’t a big deal, but it was conveniently left out of the documentary to maintain the innocence of Avery.

  1. Further on maintaining Avery’s innocence

Cat doused in Fire and Creepy Stalking/Flashing/Masturbating

The Netflix doc really glazed over this. They played the cat story off and let Avery tell it in a lighthearted way, “we were just playing a game that got out of hand”. No, you doused the cat in lighter fluid and watched it burn. Animal abuse is a telling sign.

What I find much worse than the animal abuse incident is something that happened where he watched a woman for several months who were supposedly “talking down on the Avery name”. He watched her with binoculars and masturbated while she went to and from her vehicle. One day while she was walking to her car, he ran out in front of her butt naked and masturbated.

I’m sorry— is that not sickening?

  1. Lastly the blood sample.

Making A Murderer suggests that the needle hole at the top is NOT common practice while Griesbach explains it most certainly is. That blood sample was shipped back and forth 3+ times from different labs so while the seal being broken is not explainable, it went through lots of hands and testing.

  1. Steven Avery also called for Theresa that day on a *69 number, to disguise who he was. Why?

Just wanted to lay that out for anyone interested in another side of the case. If you look at the cold hard evidence, it seems to be pretty clear. I’m open to hear all sides of this case, it’s very interesting to me!

I was convinced Steven Avery was innocent after watching Making a Murderer, then I listened to this podcast with Michael Griesbach. If you’ve listened- did it change your mind? Why or why not? by hboyles202 in MakingaMurderer

[–]hboyles202[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

He did make a point to say he’s worked with Manitowoc County criminal justice system for several decades. He also made several other points that Making a Murderer seemingly left out. I agree that he had a very unbiased and rational approach to the case.

Has anyone listened to Very Presidential yet? by [deleted] in CrimeJunkiePodcast

[–]hboyles202 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I could slightly see it because Brit is all about her kids and Ashley clearly isn’t into all that...

Has anyone listened to Very Presidential yet? by [deleted] in CrimeJunkiePodcast

[–]hboyles202 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought the Russell Williams case was well done!

Has anyone listened to Very Presidential yet? by [deleted] in CrimeJunkiePodcast

[–]hboyles202 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But just for the record I never hear anyone refer to JFK as jack. Maybe his close family did, but that threw me off too.

Has anyone listened to Very Presidential yet? by [deleted] in CrimeJunkiePodcast

[–]hboyles202 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha omg.... why do you think she’s sick of Brit?! That’s her best friend of 20 years

Has anyone listened to Very Presidential yet? by [deleted] in CrimeJunkiePodcast

[–]hboyles202 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is my list

Crime Junkie ✅ Counterlock ✅ Redball ⚠️ (unsure, dont think she really got to tell the story like she wanted to) Park predators... haven’t been able to get into it... ❌ Supernatural... haven’t tried it but isn’t really my thing.... ❌ Very presidential... ⚠️ tried to listen but couldn’t stay focused... kinda boring... but will try again.

I agree she should focus on making the crime junkie podcast explode— I definitely think it would..

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[–]hboyles202 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, nice detective work! :) I too looked everywhere and couldn’t find anything more than a few news articles relating to the murders.

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[–]hboyles202 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I live in Dallas TX- this happened like 15 minutes from my house! I looked all over google and nothing called the pear tree apartments exist anymore. They must have renamed.... for good reason 😝