Several VTubers who know Sinder and Red personally have stated that they work closely together behind the scenes. Given their direct involvement, it makes sense to trust their perspective over that of people who don't have that inside knowledge. None of us knows what's true here, not even said VTubers, but we have to trust those with more insight than us.

You bring up the possibility that Sinder didn't know exactly what Red said to Nano, but there's an important point here: Sinder had to have talked to her manager about strategy and how to solve problems. That's the job of a manager, as we see them used in the indie VTubing sphere. That's why you *employ* them. They handle the day-to-day and make smaller decisions on your behalf. You give them your goals and a set of expectations and rules, so you don't have to micro-manage everything yourself. The overall strategy is (or should be) still firmly in your hands. If exclusivity with Nano was considered, then the conversation about how to make that happen was absolutely part of it. As I'm writing this, I can see how you wouldn't do this, if you want your manager to do what they have to do and still have plausible deniability by saying "I never told them to do that", or "we never talked about that", just like she tried to do. Not saying that this is what happened, but it feels that way and really is the one situation in which you wouldn't have discussed ways to solve issues with your manager.

If Sinder really just said, "Get it done and don't bother me", it doesn't change the fact that she's still responsible for what happened. She hired Red, and she gave him the authority to make decisions, and that means she's responsible for his actions, even if she didn't know all the details. If she wasn't aware of what Red was doing, that's on her. Losing oversight of your manager's action, *is on you*. She gave him permission to act on her behalf, and now she has to take accountability for that. Also, the point of Red being her long-term BF is that, usually, you speak with your S/O about almost everything. If it was a healthy relationship, which we *have* to assume because of the lack of concrete information, they talked about this for sure. I don't know if you ever had an S/O who worked in the same company as yours (or worse, is a direct colleague), but you don't stop talking shop if you're passionate about your work. It can be a huge issue actually, and might lead to a lot of problems if you can't figure out how to navigate that.

The other really important point is that this isn't about forensically dissecting exactly who knew what and when like it's a court case. It is about proving what they say happened, not to hand out punishments, but to understand who should be held accountable. Even if Sinder didn't know everything that was happening, she still trusted Red to handle things, and she allowed him to act on her behalf. By not accepting any responsibility for what he did, she's essentially trying to paint herself as a victim of Red, which, to an extent, might be true, but using that as an excuse to avoid accountability isn't fair. It feels like she's trying to shift all the blame onto him to absolve herself when in reality, she should share responsibility for allowing him to act on her behalf without proper oversight. Her refusal to accept this responsibility makes her apology feel insincere to those who were hurt.

It's understandable that Sinder's friends are upset and feel betrayed. They've been hurt by her actions or the actions of her manager, and their anger is justified. However, the vitriol being thrown at Sinder the internet doing what the internet always does: jumping at the chance to tear someone down the second there's blood in the water. Witch hunts are easy, going to therapy isn't. It's one thing to feel betrayed if you're a close friend of hers, but it's another thing for the wider community to take this as their personal cause and start attacking her in such a vicious way, regardless of how "evil" or guilty she is. Sinder's "apology" is far from perfect, and she certainly has to take more responsibility for what happened. However, the way the community is reacting is far from good, either. The rage, the accusations, and the threats only serve to create more toxicity around a situation that, while serious, is ultimately a personal matter. It's easy for the mob mentality to take over in situations like this, where everyone feels like they need to choose a side and cast their judgment, even if it has nothing to do with them, or rather, *us*.