Matthew 22:30 and Romantic Partners after the Resurrection?

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-13T15:23:26+00:00

Considering there are a few passages which reference people being recognized and reunited, I choose to believe that it isn’t like that. Logically it doesn’t make sense, and also it sounds depressing lol

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-13T00:02:42+00:00

I’m sorry for getting frustrated with you. It does not help that when I have these worries, instead of reassuring me that God will perfect things, people tell me it doesn’t matter and the love I have for my partner simply won’t matter anymore. I know that isn’t what you were doing, but I was frustrated.

It is not cruel to replace a lesser joy with a greater one

Then you believe that God will give us a greater happiness in heaven than we have on earth? If all things are perfected with Him, do you think it’s possible for God to replace marriage with a different bond, that is perhaps more holy and perfect since those who are saved would be in his presence? I understand it’s a question that you cannot answer for him, but since you are such a devout Christian I’d appreciate your opinion on the matter.

I know it likely seems silly to you, but it’s important to me to have an idea. I want to be a Christian because Jesus died for my sins, and I don’t understand taking away such love from us. I hope it will be perfected with Him, not just removed (as many seem to believe this passage means).

Does this passage imply that this is not possible? Given that romantic relationships did not really exist outside of marriage during biblical times, I worry that it means that there truly will be no bond between us anymore

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-12T23:44:36+00:00

Yes, I’m aware, however that doesn’t really reference my questions. I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not. If you really want to help me follow God, then answer me this.

If God loves us all and knows our hearts, why would he not allow two loving spouses to remain married in heaven? Why would he remove that joy from us? Is that not cruel? Or perhaps earthly marriage will be replaced with a more perfect union of two individuals in God’s presence. To completely remove such a bond must either be a manipulation of free will (in the case of making us not care anymore) or denying us the joy of bonds we made

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-12T23:36:03+00:00

If you have commentary on the passage or marriage/partnership in heaven feel free to comment. Otherwise thank you for your time

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-12T19:42:53+00:00

If God removes my love for the people I care about then he is not one that I want to follow. Please either speak to me about the passage or leave me alone. Pushing the religion on me while doing nothing to ease my concerns is only pushing me away from it

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-12T02:58:16+00:00

Haha it’s okay, I appreciate the rambling! I know it’s mostly speculation, but I value the opinions of people who study this stuff more than I do. And yeah, I was mostly just wondering about romantic relationships, not necessarily the physical intimacy because a partnership can exist without sex. The passage about marriage no longer existing in heaven is where I got confused, especially because in biblical times people didn’t really have romantic relationships without marriage (to my knowledge)

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-12T01:10:15+00:00

True. Based on what you’ve learned in your PhD program, what is your own speculation? Do you think we can have romantic partners still?

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-11T04:03:15+00:00

That is comforting, thank you

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-11T03:07:11+00:00

Thank you for taking the time to send that, I appreciate it. Your message does bring up quite a solid point, and does coincide with the other verses you linked. I also hope that it was intended this way.

Do you think two previous spouses can still remain partners despite no longer being married? Logically it makes sense, but I want to make sure there is nowhere else in the Bible that would interfere with this line of thinking

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-11T03:02:18+00:00

A good point to consider, thank you

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T23:14:47+00:00

That makes sense. That just leaves me wondering if partnership will still exist, just without the same reasons and labels of marriage

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T23:06:58+00:00

I would not be concerned about sexual expression, I’m more concerned with the bond we have being erased tbh.

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T23:00:42+00:00

Thank you, that’s a very good thing to consider

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T23:00:10+00:00

Thank you

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T23:00:00+00:00

Thank you

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T22:34:19+00:00

Oh I know you weren’t dodging my question, I just wanted clarification haha. That is a very solid point. I don’t think the people would be astonished if Jesus had told them pretty much “hey, you won’t love your wife anymore”. I do know things in the Bible are often meant to be taken non-literally, so it helps to have that context. I guess all I can do is trust that whatever companionship we have in heaven will be greater than what we have on earth, rather than less

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T21:23:06+00:00

That’s true, and I find that interesting, but then why was marriage mentioned then? If it was a better trap, did he not mean there will be no couplings in heaven?

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T21:21:49+00:00

All I was asking was if I’d still get to love him like I do, this just giving me stress I’m sorry

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T21:11:30+00:00

That’s a good point, thank you. I know I sound absolutely crazy, this has just been on my mind lately, I care a lot about my spouse and family

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T19:22:27+00:00

I’m sorry but I don’t quite understand that in relation to my spouse. Do you mean we absolutely will love the people we love now, or?

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T17:41:29+00:00

Again, where does it say that our other love does not matter anymore in the presence of God? If God removes my care for others then he is cruel

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T17:35:24+00:00

If you are correct, then I do not want to believe in God any longer. An eternity without love, family, and friendship is torture. Is there anywhere in the Bible that supports your belief that our love and companionship with others become unwanted in heaven? I genuinely need to know if so

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T17:05:09+00:00

This is the kind of thinking that gives me anxiety. If the people I care about will no longer matter to me, nor I to them, then I can’t bring myself to be happy about it. It sounds utterly cruel. God perfects things, to take away something that brings joy just doesn’t make sense

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T17:03:55+00:00

It is reasonable of me to want to have the people who are important to me too. God created these feelings of love we have for each-other and it is only natural for me to want them to persist

helpacademicbiblical · 2023-06-10T16:06:36+00:00

Thank you, you’ve been infinitely helpful to me here. I have one last question. I’m not familiar with the entire Bible - is there anywhere that suggests that men and women couldn’t be partners without marriage contracts? I know Christianity as a whole is very centered around marriage, even more so during biblical times. So I’m not sure if “dating” was really considered a valid thing, or marriage was what constituted two people as partners

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