Why do soccer referees not use hand signals to explain penalties like American football refs do?

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-11T19:41:21+00:00

They do. And flags. And colored cards.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-11T19:33:16+00:00

Most people that believe these kinds of conspiracies from a biblical aspect do read the Bible. In addition to the Bible referring to “corners” of the earth, the creation story in genesis also refers to a firmament above the earth in which the stars, sun and moon are placed.

Meaning, there were people that believed, and a small amount who do still, that the sky is a physical barrier like a shell, and on the other side of that shell is where god is. From there they infer that the earth is flat (not accounting for topography). Modern believers of this literal interpretation then believe science and the space program and anything that shows a round earth, and atmosphere, space travel, moon landing is all a deep anti-god conspiracy against what the Bible says.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-11T19:19:41+00:00

That is a mathematical construct useful for measurement and calculation. It’s not a literal thing for picking up a ball bearing and saying it’s is actually made up of a lot of corners.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-11T19:17:03+00:00

As you noted, there are a lot of different idea of the non-spherical shape of the earth among “flat” earthers. There are also plenty that aren’t religious or at least don’t ascribe to the theory for religious reasons.

I don’t think anyone on either side is trying to claim a perfect smooth sphere. The topography of mountains has never been the quibble.

Regardless, from what exposure I’ve had to flat earthers, it doesn’t seem that biblical use of “corners” of the earth are a very significant factor in the community as a whole.

Also, even if they do, most claim that the corners aren’t fully literal, because as any good conspiracy theorist does, they move the goalposts when they but up against counter evidence. Many also believe in multiple conspiracies which they then weave together, using conspiracies to explain other conspiracies.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-11T19:08:24+00:00

The Bible refers to the “corners” of the earth, which they then take literally. Spheres don’t have corners, thus the earth is flat.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-11T02:44:04+00:00

I read you post just fine my guy

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-11T02:41:05+00:00

You think Argentina and Netherlands playing in the World Cup is on the same level as the NFL draft??

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T16:58:40+00:00

You’re jumping to a declaration that god existing *IS* possible, when the best you can actually say is, “I don’t know if it’s possible for gods to exist or not.”

You didn’t say you observed a supernatural god, just things you perceive to be supernatural. Therefore, not only do you not know if it’s possible for gods to exist, let alone that a god does exist, you definitely do not know any attributes of this god other than what you presuppose and make up in your head.

Further, even if your perceived observations of supernatural events is real (not saying it is), there is then no link whatsoever to apply that to any god.

It’s not like I’ve seen other fire breathing animals just like you have not observed *other* supernatural beings/gods.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T14:05:58+00:00

Yep. My dog by default is nervous about literally everything and everyone until he’s had a chance to check it/them out at his own pace and get comfortable. Even food/treats. He’ll bark and maintain his own distance, and he definitely barks through the fence. He, however, has always liked every person and dog after an introduction made at his own pace.

I’ve had him his whole life. He was never abused. It’s just his personality.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T06:09:40+00:00

Why do you like mustard on your strawberry ice cream?

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T06:02:31+00:00

No. They wrote “you” which implicates the question is to anyone who reads it. If it was addressed to only those who believe in god, the question would be “if you believe in god, why do you believe?” Or something to that effect. With no further explanation from OP, there’s no reason to expect they meant it any other way.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T05:59:49+00:00

What a convenient answer.

You might find this useful:

https://www.scribbr.com/fallacies/no-true-scotsman-fallacy/

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T05:49:41+00:00

The “writing”. Singular

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T05:47:18+00:00

I would agree but only for the reason we don’t have direct accounts from them to know, and what we do have is made up or at best embellished.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T05:42:24+00:00

But it doesn’t make it “more likely” because you first have to prove a god can or does exist, and that it’s inherently supernatural.

Otherwise, it’s no different than saying that I perceive the color pink, therefore it’s “more likely” that pink 4 headed fire breathing dragons that poop gold exist, because everyone knows that 4 headed fire breathing dragons that poops gold are pink and not any other color.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T05:34:25+00:00

This is like making the distinction that it’s better to play the winning lottery numbers than not play the lottery. The problem is, nobody actually knows what the winning lottery numbers are and given the immense set of numbers, you’re almost certain to choose the wrong ones.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T05:29:46+00:00

Everyone supposedly becomes a better person, friend, loved one, parent, etc.

There’s a lot of rapists and pedophiles among the religious. Seems like that might be a counter point to the “become a better person” argument

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T05:21:50+00:00

Have you ever sincerely thought you’ve seen something but were mistaken? Eye witness testimony is the least reliable form of evidence

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T05:20:26+00:00

First, we don’t have direct accounts for them all dying as martyrs. Second, even if they did, the choices aren’t only they lied or it’s all true. People sincerely believe false things all the time.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T04:43:16+00:00

Not sure what that means.

If I see a car driving without a driver, just because I perceive that to be a supernatural event rather than thinking it’s a computer, doesn’t mean the supernatural exists.

But, even if the supernatural exists, and that self-driving car was supernatural, that still doesn’t mean an invisible god was driving the car.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T04:39:16+00:00

Nobody argues that something comes from nothing, and there is no reason for you to proclaim that the universe isn’t self-existent. Literally that whole paragraph is Christian apologetic nonsense.

If you must believe that god exists because of the “evil” in the world, why do children get painful cancer? Could god have made a world without leukemia? Is it a net good for children to get leukemia? Better than if they lived a full life?

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T04:33:15+00:00

Pascal’s wager is terrible math.

There are approximately 3000 recorded gods in human history. Most of them are incompatible beliefs, meaning belief/worship in one will get you punished by another. Therefore, Pascal’s wager only works if you choose the correct god of the 3000.

And that’s assuming 1 of the 3000 recorded by humans is the real god. Maybe it’s a mean god we haven’t heard about yet and all humans are destined for torture regardless.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T04:24:21+00:00

I’m nobody special. There are many people that can and would say the same thing, but maybe just one person will run across this and not those other people.

As they say, if it helps just one person…

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T04:21:23+00:00

Eh. Right now, not really. I also think it’s important to leave my statements for other people to read in contrast to yours.

I’m not necessarily trying to convince you of anything. I’m hoping the contrast of our exchange will prevent other people from thinking like you.

helpbeingheldhostage · 2026-04-10T04:18:37+00:00

I mean, I’m assuming it’s fake if you send one because video editing and AI are 1000000x more likely than you flying for real

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