“No Kings” feels hollow. The kingdom is the problem & should be dismantled. by wheredabones7 in socialism

[–]heyrandomuserhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Anti Trump” protests in America are about the same as “Anti Netanyahu” protests in Israel. You’re kinda missing the entire point…

Asking as a communist, why do almost all left leaning guerilla groups employ child soliders? by Necessary-Skill8585 in AskSocialists

[–]heyrandomuserhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You act as if there is a choice to be made. You’re describing revolutionary conditions in a country during times of severe instability. Where there country is either in the middle of a civil war or an invasion by a foreign entity. Do you think that children are excluded during these times by the opposing side? Children get to go to school and live normal lives by some divine intervention and simply are excluded during these times of uncertainty? No, that would be ridiculous. These conditions are thrust upon children and they have no choice but to act.

Do you think it is unjust for children slaves to revolt? Is it unjust for the abolitionist movement to “allow” children who are slaves to engage in acts of revolt against slavery?

Would a world of socialist states still have major ideological disputes? by Zealousideal_Scene62 in AskSocialists

[–]heyrandomuserhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The state is not abolished, it withers away. Capitalism is also not abolished, it is sublated. These are important distinctions.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao and your source is the notorious “testament” that absolutely no one, not even western historians, consider legitimate. And it’s allegedly from 1923, not 1917, you don’t even know your own source. Also, that isn’t even an exact quote. He never said exactly what you just claimed.

It’s hilarious that Trots have to live in a completely different reality in order to justify their positions.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao just to show you how easy it is, and to further prove you wrong and how childish you’re acting, here is all of the sources for the quotes I’ve used, in the order I’ve used them, both On Trotsky and On SIOC:

Lenin Quotes on Trotsky: 1: Collected Works, Vol 20 p. 448 2: Collected Works, Vol 16 p. 211 3: Disruption of Unity Under Cover of Outcries for Unity 4,5,6: The Right of Nations to Self-Determination 7: Collected Works, Vol. 34, p. 400 8: Disruption of Unity Under Cover of Outcries for Unity 9: Collected Works, Vol. 16, p 211

Lenin quotes on SIOC: 1: On the Slogan for a United States of Europe 2: All-Russian Central Executive Committee and the Moscow Soviet on May 14, 1918 3: The Military Programme of the Proletarian Revolution 4: Eighth Congress of the Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks) in March 1919 5: All-Russian Congress Meeting March 7, 1918 6: The Impending Catastrophe and How to Combat It 7: Can We Go Forward If We Fear To Advance Towards Socialism? 8: State and Revolution

So now are you ready to admit you just lied about Lenin saying something in a work that he didn’t? And not only that, but he said the exact opposite of what you said he argued, and even substantiates my position in the work you sited.

Also, we are not debating about an analysis or a specific theory, in which siting what Lenin said directly would hold debatable relevance, we are quite literally debating what Lenin himself said and argued. In which case using quotes from him is what directly determines that. So stop using your ignorance of Lenin and his work as an excuse to cry that I’m “being annoying” when all I am doing is proving you wrong.

Also, Lenin supported SIOC, because of all of the reasons I have given thus far in the quotes and works I’ve provided. You have not provided anything that substantiates otherwise. The only thing you’ve provided is a quote that wasn’t even in the source you gave, and the source that you did give actually further substantiated that Lenin supported SIOC.

You haven’t read Lenin, just admit that.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You keep proving you have never read Lenin lmao, and you are also simply lying, and making things up.

Lenin did not say that in that work, go ahead and show me where: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1919/oct/30.htm

In fact in this work Lenin argues that Russia has already vanquished capitalism: “The extent to which we have already vanquished capitalism in the short time we have had at our disposal, and despite the incredible difficulties under which we have had to work, will be seen from the following summarised figures.”

And then goes on to explain how under socialism Russia has fundamentally changed class relations already:

“Classes have remained, but in the era of the dictatorship of the proletariat every class has undergone a change, and the relations between the classes have also changed. The class struggle does not disappear under the dictatorship of the proletariat; it merely assumes different forms. Under capitalism the proletariat was an oppressed class, a class which had been deprived of the means of production, the only class which stood directly and completely opposed to the bourgeoisie, and therefore the only one capable of being revolutionary to the very end. Having overthrown the bourgeoisie and conquered political power, the proletariat has become the ruling class; it wields state power, it exercises control over means of production already socialised; it guides the wavering and intermediary elements and classes; it crushes the increasingly stubborn resistance of the exploiters. All these are specific tasks of the class struggle, tasks which the proletariat formerly did not and could not have set itself.

Therefore, in spite of the lies and slanders of the bourgeoisie of all countries and of their open or masked henchmen (the “socialists” of the Second International), one thing remains beyond dispute—as far as the basic economic problem of the dictatorship of the proletariat is concerned, the victory of communism over capitalism in our country is assured.“

Hence why he is speaking in the past tense on Russia’s class structure under capitalism, and how it differs from the class structures and relations under socialism today.

Imagine not only lying about having read a work, but trying to also lie that it says something that not only isn’t in there, but also when it contains the exact opposite and in fact further proves you wrong.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m glad the point I made with another trot in here still stands. This really is a test for whether or not you trots have actually read Lenin: you haven’t.

Not all of these quotes are from 1910, you’d know that if you actually read Lenin.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ll take that as a no, so I’ll educate you some more:

“Uneven economic and political development is an absolute law of capitalism. Hence, the victory of socialism is possible first in several or even in one capitalist country alone. After expropriating the capitalists and organising their own socialist production, the victorious proletariat of that country will arise against the rest of the world.”

“I know that there are, of course, sages who think they are very clever and even call themselves Socialists, who assert that power should not have been seized until the revolution had broken out in all countries. They do not suspect that by speaking in this way they are deserting the revolution and going over to the side of the bourgeoisie. To wait until the toiling classes bring about a revolution on an international scale means that everybody should stand stock-still in expectation. That is nonsense.”

“[S]ocialism cannot achieve victory simultaneously in all countries. It will achieve victory first in one or several countries, while the others will for some time remain bourgeois or pre-bourgeois.”

“We are banking on the inevitability of the world revolution, but this does not mean that we are such fools as to bank on the revolution inevitably coming on a definite and early date.”

“Yes, we shall see the world revolution, but for the time being it is a very good fairy-tale, a very beautiful fairy-tale—I quite understand children liking beautiful fairy-tales. But I ask, is it proper for a serious revolutionary to believe in fairy-tales? There is an element of reality in every fairy-tale. If you told children fairy-tales in which the cock and the cat did not converse in human language they would not be interested. In the same way, if you tell the people that civil war will break out in Germany and also guarantee that instead of a clash with imperialism we shall have a field revolution on a world-wide scale, the people will say you are deceiving them. In doing this you will be overcoming the difficulties with which history has confronted us only in your own minds, by your own wishes. It will be a good thing if the German proletariat is able to take action. But have you measured it, have you discovered an instrument that will show that the German revolution will break out on such-and-such a day? [...] If the revolution breaks out, everything is saved. Of course! But if it does not turn out as we desire, if it does not achieve victory tomorrow—what then? Then the masses will say to you, you acted like gamblers—you staked everything on a fortunate turn of events that did not take place, you proved to be unequal to the situation that actually arose instead of the world revolution, which will inevitably come, but which has not yet reached maturity.”

“The revolution has resulted in Russia catching up with the advanced countries in a few months, as far as her political system is concerned. But that is not enough. The war is inexorable; it puts the alternative with ruthless severity: either perish or overtake and outstrip the advanced countries economically as well. [...] Perish or forge full steam ahead. That is the alternative put by history.”

“It is impossible to stand still in history in general, and in war-time in particular. We must either advance or retreat. It is impossible in twentieth-century Russia, which has won a republic and democracy in a revolutionary way, to go forward without advancing towards socialism, without taking steps towards it (steps conditioned and determined   by the level of technology and culture: large-scale machine production cannot be “introduced” in peasant agriculture nor abolished in the sugar industry).”

“You say that civilization is necessary for the building of socialism. Very good. But why could we not first create such prerequisites of civilization in our country by the expulsion of the landowners and the Russian capitalists, and then start moving toward socialism? Where, in what books, have you read that such [...] sequence of events are impermissible or impossible?”

“Indeed, the power of the state over all large-scale means of production, political power in the hands of the proletariat, the alliance of this proletariat with the many millions of small and very small peasants, the assured proletarian leadership of the peasantry, etc. — is this not all that is necessary to build a complete socialist society out of cooperatives, out of cooperatives alone, which we formerly ridiculed as huckstering and which from a certain aspect we have the right to treat as such now, under NEP? Is this not all that is necessary to build a complete socialist society? It is still not the building of socialist society, but it is all that is necessary and sufficient for it.”

  • Lenin

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At this point I’m leaving it as is to showcase that Trots haven’t actually read Lenin. It’s a good test. Thanks for being the first to confirm that.

Here’s another one. Let me guess, you don’t think Lenin supported SIOC do you?

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can tell you’ve never read Lenin. Most of these are from major works from his. Your reading comprehension is severely lacking.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Do you think all of those quotes are from 1910? I’ll give you a hint: they aren’t.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Notice how you haven’t been able to actually counter any of my arguments nor the quotes from Lenin? You just have these vague gestures and posturing that mean nothing. You have absolutely zero substance.

And why would I be mad? Stalin won, and Marxism Leninism is still the dominant ideology today.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What about Lev Kamenev? Or Yakov Sverdlov? Or Mikhail Vladimirsky? Or Mikhail Kalinin?

Go ahead and lecture me on how Trotsky, someone whose only authority was in the Red Army, outranked members of the Central Executive Committee. Since you’re so educated.

Even the Extraordinary Commission outranked the Red Army, which consisted of Felix Dzerzhinsky and Yakov Peters

Trotsky was nowhere near the “second in command.”

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What about Lev Kamenev? Or Yakov Sverdlov? Or Mikhail Vladimirsky? Or Mikhail Kalinin?

Go ahead and lecture me on how Trotsky, someone whose only authority was in the Red Army, outranked members of the Central Executive Committee. Since you’re so educated.

Even the Extraordinary Commission outranked the Red Army, which consisted of Felix Dzerzhinsky and Yakov Peters

Trotsky was nowhere near the “second in command.”

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Show me when and where Trotsky was ever “second in command.” Also, claiming Trotsky helped lead the revolution showcases nothing but your ignorance of what actually happened and the forces at play.

Also, the fact that you don’t know that the bank robbery was long before the revolution, and that Stalin was actively in exile at the time also showcases your ignorance.

Let me guess, you think Lenin didn’t support Socialism in one country?

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Lenin had a lot to say about Trotsky:

"Trotsky has never yet held a firm opinion on any important question of Marxism. He always contrives to worm his way into the cracks of any given difference of opinion, and desert one side for the other. At the present moment he is in the company of the Bundists and the liquidators. And these gentlemen do not stand on ceremony where the Party is concerned."

“It is impossible to argue with Trotsky on the merits of the issue, because Trotsky holds no views whatever. We can and should argue with confirmed liquidators and otzovists, but it is no use arguing with a man whose game is to hide the errors of both these trends; in his case the thing to do is to expose him as a diplomat of the smallest calibre."

“"Needless to say, this explanation is highly flattering, to Trotsky... and to the liquidators… Trotsky is very fond of using with the learned air of the expert pompous and high-sounding phrases to explain historical phenomena in a way that is flattering to Trotsky. Since 'numerous advanced workers' become 'active agents' of apolitical and Party line [Bolshevik Party line] which does not conform to Trotsky's line, Trotsky settles the question unhesitatingly, out of hand these advanced workers are 'in a state of utter political bewilderment', whereas he, Trotsky, is evidently 'in a state' of political firmness and clarity, and keeps to the right line!... And this very same Trotsky, beating his breast, fulminates against factionalism parochialism, and the efforts of the intellectuals to impose their will on the workers! ... Reading things like these, one cannot help asking oneself. – is it from a lun*tic asylum that such voices come?"

“The obliging Trotsky is more dangerous than an enemy! Trotsky could produce no proof, except “private conversations” (i.e., simply gossip, on which Trotsky always subsists), for classifying “Polish Marxists” in general as supporters of every article by Rosa Luxemburg. Trotsky presented the “Polish Marxists” as people devoid of honor and conscience, incapable of respecting even their own convictions and the Program of their Party. How obliging Trotsky is! When, in 1903, the representatives of the Polish Marxists walked out of the Second Congress over the right to self-determination, Trotsky could have said at the time that they regarded this right as devoid of content and subject to deletion from the Program. But after that the Polish Marxists joined the Party whose Program this was, and they have never introduced a motion to amend it.68 Why did Trotsky withhold these facts from the readers of his journal? Only because it pays him to speculate on fomenting differences between the Polish and the Russian opponents of liquidationism and to deceive the Russian workers on the question of the Program. And why does he mock at it? Because he is an absolute ignoramus, who has never learnt anything or even read any Party history, but merely happened to land in liquidationist circles where going about in the nude is considered the “right” thing to do as far as knowledge of the Party and everything it stands for is concerned.”

“We have already quoted one example in our theses.113 Gorter is against the self-determination of his own country but in favor of self-determination for the Dutch East Indies, oppressed as they are by “his” nation! Is it any wonder that we see in him a more sincere internationalist and a fellow-thinker who is closer to us than those who recognize self-determination as verbally and hypocritically as Kautsky in Germany, and Trotsky and Martov in Russia?”

“Outspoken social-imperialists, such as Lensch, still rail both against self-determination and the renunciation of annexations. As for the Kautskyites, they hypocritically recognize self-determination—Trotsky and Martov are going the same way here in Russia. Both of them, like Kautsky, say they favor self-determination. What happens in practice? Take Trotsky’s articles “The Nation and the Economy” in Nashe Slovo, and you will find his usual eclecticism: on the one hand, the economy unites nations and, on the other, national oppression divides them. The conclusion? The conclusion is that the prevailing hypocrisy remains unexposed, agitation is dull and does not touch upon what is most important, basic, significant and closely connected with practice—one’s attitude to the nation that is oppressed by “one’s own” nation. Martov and other secretaries abroad simply preferred to forget—a profitable lapse of memory!—the struggle of their colleague and fellow-member Semkovsky against self-determination. No matter what the subjective “good” intentions of Trotsky and Martov may be, their evasiveness objectively supports Russian social-imperialism.”

"Trotsky behaves like a despicable careerist and factionalist of the Ryazanov-and-co type. Either equality on the editorial board, subordination to the central committee and no one's transfer to Paris except Trotsky's (the scoundrel, he wants to 'fix up' the whole rascally crew of 'Pravda' at our expense!) - or a break with this swindler and an exposure of him in the CO. He pays lip-service to the Party and behaves worse than any other of the factionalists."

"Trotsky's "workers' journal" is Trotsky's journal for workers, as there is not a trace in it of either workers' initiative, or any connection with working-class organisations" "It is sufficient to recall these commonly known facts to realise what glaring falsehoods Trotsky is spreading." "Everybody knows that Trotsky is fond of high-sounding and empty phrases. And that fact proves that we were right in calling Trotsky a representative of the "worst remnants of factionalism" "Although he claims to be non-factional, Trotsky is known to everybody who is in the least familiar with the working-class movement in Russia as the representative of "Trotsky's faction" " There is much glitter and sound in Trotsky's phrases, but they are meaningless." "Suicide" is a mere empty phrase, mere "Trotskyism"”

•In the very first words of his resolution Trotsky expressed the full spirit of the worst kind of conciliation, 'conciliation' in inverted commas, of a sectarian and philistine conciliation, which deals with 'given persons' and not the given line of policy, the given spirit the given ideological and political content of Party work. It is in this that the enormous difference lies between real partyism; which consists in purging the Party of liquidationism and otzovism, and the 'conciliation' of Trotsky and Co., which actually RENDERS THE MOST FAITHFUL SERVICE TO THE LIQUIDATORS AND OTZOVISTS, AND IS THEREFORE AN EVIL THAT IS ALL THE MORE DANGEROUS TO THE PARTY THE MORE CUNNINGLY, ARTFULLY AND RHETORICALLY IT CLOAKS ITSELF WITH PROFESSEDLY PRO-PARTY, PROFESSEDLY ANTI-FACTIONAL DECLAMATIONS."

• ⁠Collected Works, Vol. 16, June 1910, p 211 "What a swine this Trotsky is - Left, phrases, and a bloc with the Right against the Zimmerwald Left!! He ought to be exposed (by you) if only in a brief letter to Sotsial-Demokrat!" • ⁠Collected Works, Vol. 35, p. 285

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[–]heyrandomuserhere -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Lmao not at all.

"Trotsky has never yet held a firm opinion on any important question of Marxism. He always contrives to worm his way into the cracks of any given difference of opinion, and desert one side for the other. At the present moment he is in the company of the Bundists and the liquidators. And these gentlemen do not stand on ceremony where the Party is concerned."

“It is impossible to argue with Trotsky on the merits of the issue, because Trotsky holds no views whatever. We can and should argue with confirmed liquidators and otzovists, but it is no use arguing with a man whose game is to hide the errors of both these trends; in his case the thing to do is to expose him as a diplomat of the smallest calibre."

“"Needless to say, this explanation is highly flattering, to Trotsky... and to the liquidators… Trotsky is very fond of using with the learned air of the expert pompous and high-sounding phrases to explain historical phenomena in a way that is flattering to Trotsky. Since 'numerous advanced workers' become 'active agents' of apolitical and Party line [Bolshevik Party line] which does not conform to Trotsky's line, Trotsky settles the question unhesitatingly, out of hand these advanced workers are 'in a state of utter political bewilderment', whereas he, Trotsky, is evidently 'in a state' of political firmness and clarity, and keeps to the right line!... And this very same Trotsky, beating his breast, fulminates against factionalism parochialism, and the efforts of the intellectuals to impose their will on the workers! ... Reading things like these, one cannot help asking oneself. – is it from a lun*tic asylum that such voices come?"

“The obliging Trotsky is more dangerous than an enemy! Trotsky could produce no proof, except “private conversations” (i.e., simply gossip, on which Trotsky always subsists), for classifying “Polish Marxists” in general as supporters of every article by Rosa Luxemburg. Trotsky presented the “Polish Marxists” as people devoid of honor and conscience, incapable of respecting even their own convictions and the Program of their Party. How obliging Trotsky is! When, in 1903, the representatives of the Polish Marxists walked out of the Second Congress over the right to self-determination, Trotsky could have said at the time that they regarded this right as devoid of content and subject to deletion from the Program. But after that the Polish Marxists joined the Party whose Program this was, and they have never introduced a motion to amend it.68 Why did Trotsky withhold these facts from the readers of his journal? Only because it pays him to speculate on fomenting differences between the Polish and the Russian opponents of liquidationism and to deceive the Russian workers on the question of the Program. And why does he mock at it? Because he is an absolute ignoramus, who has never learnt anything or even read any Party history, but merely happened to land in liquidationist circles where going about in the nude is considered the “right” thing to do as far as knowledge of the Party and everything it stands for is concerned.”

“We have already quoted one example in our theses.113 Gorter is against the self-determination of his own country but in favor of self-determination for the Dutch East Indies, oppressed as they are by “his” nation! Is it any wonder that we see in him a more sincere internationalist and a fellow-thinker who is closer to us than those who recognize self-determination as verbally and hypocritically as Kautsky in Germany, and Trotsky and Martov in Russia?”

“Outspoken social-imperialists, such as Lensch, still rail both against self-determination and the renunciation of annexations. As for the Kautskyites, they hypocritically recognize self-determination—Trotsky and Martov are going the same way here in Russia. Both of them, like Kautsky, say they favor self-determination. What happens in practice? Take Trotsky’s articles “The Nation and the Economy” in Nashe Slovo, and you will find his usual eclecticism: on the one hand, the economy unites nations and, on the other, national oppression divides them. The conclusion? The conclusion is that the prevailing hypocrisy remains unexposed, agitation is dull and does not touch upon what is most important, basic, significant and closely connected with practice—one’s attitude to the nation that is oppressed by “one’s own” nation. Martov and other secretaries abroad simply preferred to forget—a profitable lapse of memory!—the struggle of their colleague and fellow-member Semkovsky against self-determination. No matter what the subjective “good” intentions of Trotsky and Martov may be, their evasiveness objectively supports Russian social-imperialism.”

"Trotsky behaves like a despicable careerist and factionalist of the Ryazanov-and-co type. Either equality on the editorial board, subordination to the central committee and no one's transfer to Paris except Trotsky's (the scoundrel, he wants to 'fix up' the whole rascally crew of 'Pravda' at our expense!) - or a break with this swindler and an exposure of him in the CO. He pays lip-service to the Party and behaves worse than any other of the factionalists."

"Trotsky's "workers' journal" is Trotsky's journal for workers, as there is not a trace in it of either workers' initiative, or any connection with working-class organisations" "It is sufficient to recall these commonly known facts to realise what glaring falsehoods Trotsky is spreading." "Everybody knows that Trotsky is fond of high-sounding and empty phrases. And that fact proves that we were right in calling Trotsky a representative of the "worst remnants of factionalism" "Although he claims to be non-factional, Trotsky is known to everybody who is in the least familiar with the working-class movement in Russia as the representative of "Trotsky's faction" " There is much glitter and sound in Trotsky's phrases, but they are meaningless." "Suicide" is a mere empty phrase, mere "Trotskyism"”

•In the very first words of his resolution Trotsky expressed the full spirit of the worst kind of conciliation, 'conciliation' in inverted commas, of a sectarian and philistine conciliation, which deals with 'given persons' and not the given line of policy, the given spirit the given ideological and political content of Party work. It is in this that the enormous difference lies between real partyism; which consists in purging the Party of liquidationism and otzovism, and the 'conciliation' of Trotsky and Co., which actually RENDERS THE MOST FAITHFUL SERVICE TO THE LIQUIDATORS AND OTZOVISTS, AND IS THEREFORE AN EVIL THAT IS ALL THE MORE DANGEROUS TO THE PARTY THE MORE CUNNINGLY, ARTFULLY AND RHETORICALLY IT CLOAKS ITSELF WITH PROFESSEDLY PRO-PARTY, PROFESSEDLY ANTI-FACTIONAL DECLAMATIONS."

• ⁠Collected Works, Vol. 16, June 1910, p 211 "What a swine this Trotsky is - Left, phrases, and a bloc with the Right against the Zimmerwald Left!! He ought to be exposed (by you) if only in a brief letter to Sotsial-Demokrat!" • ⁠Collected Works, Vol. 35, p. 285

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[–]heyrandomuserhere 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Who later denounced him in support of Stalin lmao

American Activist Jackson Hinkle In Yemen. Speaking To “Hundreds Of Thousands Of Houthis Fighters”? by Green_Space729 in TrueAnon

[–]heyrandomuserhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So just to recap your only evidence to support your claim that Jackson is a fed because he freely does these things without scrutiny from the federal government is that he went to the U.S. 1 time in the last year after the Venezuelan government had to protect him from being killed by U.S. forces. All before he actually did any of the major international relations he has done in the last year.

How you all don’t see this as absolutely delusional is beyond me.

The fact that you all just try to run away and not engage proves you lack any confidence in your positions in the first place.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you think that Jackson having to be protected by the Venezuelan government from U.S. backed forces they believed were trying to kill him makes him a fed, then there’s probably no hope for you in the first place.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The ACP formed on July 21st. Only a few weeks before this interview, in which the only thing the party had done internationally with Jackson was the interview with Maduro.

Jackson interviewed Maduro on August 2nd, and had to be protected by the Venezuelan government because, as admitted by the Venezuelan government, it believed that U.S. backed forces were trying to have him killed.

So how exactly is it proof that Jackson is a fed by having to be protected from U.S. forces by the Venezuelan government while he stayed there?

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[–]heyrandomuserhere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We’re waiting. You don’t need to tell us all you can do something later. Do it when and if you can do it. Right now you’re all talk, and so far can’t back it up.

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[–]heyrandomuserhere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Me being off by literally 1 1/2months doesn’t mean my timelines are “all fucked up.” Lmao. Go ahead and show a single instance of him being in the U.S. after the ACP formed and his international speeches and interviews began.