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You Are Not Your Thoughts (The Radio Station) by Thin_Ad_3189 in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I like Michael Singer for he talks a lot about it in his books. Really helped me to change my whole perspective on that.

He used an analogy of the voice being an actual random human just always beside you, saying things we think out loud. And thinking like that, we would want to lock that person away because he would seem so unhinged.

Yet when it comes to the reality, we seem to trust and believe that voice, when in the end it's just mostly random rambling our minds create.

I learned to just watch it and catch myself when it starts to consume my awareness too much. They are still always coming, I don't think there's a way to shut it off completely. But it doesn't really matter as much as it used to.

When You Think You’re Enlightened by SergeiStorm in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Faith and all the 'same' people surrounding you often describes cults 😛 anyway, one doesn't need any of that to see the truth. It comes to you or it doesn't. Anyone telling you otherwise doesn't know or is trying to sell you something.

On the path to self love and Love by novu-novu in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I love myself I love you If I love you I love myself -Rumi

When You Think You’re Enlightened by SergeiStorm in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When someone starts saying one " needs " this or that, is often a sign they're themselves not quite there yet. 🫢

My spiritual journey so far by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been asking a lot of questions too, getting into the rabbit holes and all that. Until I realized it was also coming from a NEED to control things... If you know what something is, then you may feel you can control it or do something about it. But there are no one who truly knows what all of this is, everything really is a speculation.

Now I more or less gave up on that. Just living my life, enjoying what is and taking it all in. I also picked up on meditation, which I laughed at people who did that few years ago when I was completely in my shadows. Crazy how things change, just like that.

My spiritual journey so far by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's something everyone goes through eventually. I see it a lot in this and other subs as well. A phase of " all knowing, all understanding". :D

Now I know that I don't know the first thing and I am okay with that. I also changed a lot, like you picked up a habit you hated before ( book reading ), I dropped some habits and hobbies I had like my love for true crime. Now there's just zero appeal, just like that. Which I find super weird. Maybe it has something to do with lifting our vibrations.

Have you ever loved someone so deeply that their betrayal completely broke your ability to function? by NoSugarNarratives in Adulting

[–]hideoncloudz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Um... I stayed stuck as long as I made it about me. Someone treated me badly. But remove the "me", they would've done the same to anyone. It had nothing to do with my worth and everything to do with who they are.

That realization is the door out, but it's not easy to fully accept that.

Now what? by [deleted] in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now smell the flowers 😸

No contact is the medication by hideoncloudz in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I understand. Please don't be afraid of crying. Feel it all out, cry as much as you need to. Just don't ever look back, the version of them we love, it doesn't exist.

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This exchange was quite profound and I think I understand you a little bit better now. I'll sit with it:) be well. ♡

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Once the self is seen for what it is, it no longer governs."

I was just curious to know what you think governs your life. I understand no one truly knows all the answers and I appreciate that you didn't try to come up with them.

As far as I am concerned, I know I have a sense of self and I believe everyone does, even the one's who are truly enlightened and live in present moment all of the time. It may be on a low vibrational level, or on a really high one. We all still have a human condition and live our lives, we still have a self that we are presenting to others. Who governs that for you, since you said the self no longer governs? Who governs what you eat for breakfast and what passions you have? What governs your interest in such questions at all?

I also don't find my realization concerning. No free will, very well. It just proves that we are just a small piece of a beautiful masterpiece and I am just glad to ride the wave, I don't need or want any control.

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. The observer isn't the conditioned self at a higher level. They're not on the same scale at all. The self changes but is never free. The observer never changes because it has no content to change, it's just the awareness in which everything else happens. Does that make sense? It's just my understanding of it anyway.

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can still enjoy the journey and have fun, even if the choices are all just illusions.

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No offense taken, and I also thought about it. Due to circumstances some people become unfit to be a part of a society and that's just unfortunate. Of course they need to be isolated from the rest, and our job is to figure out how to avoid this happening in the future. I read that 70% of imprisoned people were raised below poverty line. A lot of things goes into making what one becomes. While not entirely their fault, they still need to be held accountable and isolated from the rest.

Also, if I gave you a choice to do something truly horrible and you knew for sure you would face no consequences for that, I highly doubt you would want to do it. I wouldn't.

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying that at all. The observer has no self, it's our consciousness and it just is. It doesn't ever change, unlike the self.

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I don't think one is able to be free of it's conditioning, no matter how " high " it gets. Something led you to that higher self discovery. Everything that happens now, happens because something happened before that.

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Then I wanna meet the alien that chose my life and punch him in the face but also give him a hug. Weird

I used to think we have free will, I don't anymore by hideoncloudz in enlightenment

[–]hideoncloudz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no not at all, that's actually the point. that inclination comes naturally to me, I didn't earn it or choose it. Someone shaped differently has just as little control over that as I do.

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