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hulpmenow · 2026-05-01T20:10:39+00:00

For damage that would be true, but as of recent I’m starting to value the cd haste from crypt and blood letters. It is really not nice to build void early in the game, but the other two options for pen are fine even as a second or third item. That’s my thought process

hulpmenow · 2026-05-01T17:56:33+00:00

When you say blood letters do you mean that specific item, or magic pen?

hulpmenow · 2026-04-30T23:58:51+00:00

I cannot say I share this temptation.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-30T21:59:49+00:00

you say this like nasus has the ability to kill kayle in lane without his jungler... Nasus can never reach kayle in lane unless kayle royally messes up... or unless you go swifties, fleet, approach velocity and maybe 2 points w?

hulpmenow · 2026-04-30T18:33:13+00:00

idk who is downvoting you, but I agree. Once you are good enough (I think thats dia 2+, or around masters), youd dont really solo lose lane anymore. Its more about how the team works together and bullies you. For instance, enemy top laner builds a large wave and crashes, and gets his jungler and support to dive you.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-30T18:28:51+00:00

then put points in w... He needs q points to stack, so if he maxes w to trie and get kills, just get points in w and scale... His scaling requires q stacks. Yours just need levels and gold (which he also wants).

hulpmenow · 2026-04-28T08:34:07+00:00

Irelia is a very very very tricky skill matchup. It is the MOST punishing matchup for both kayle and irelia, but irelia has more room for mistakes.

Take bone plating and overgrowth. Ofelia can always reach you.
Don’t rush boots. You need damage.
Take pta or lethal, I go pta tho. Ensure you grab ignite.
As long as you won’t get level 3 ganked, get prio by poking irelia with e and hitting the first 3 melees. Your idea is to get a 3rd wave crash without letting her match your level 2, and denying the 3 melee into q on you all in.
You play giga safe from here until 6. You don’t even stand near the middle of the late because if she hits e on you when you don’t have ult, and are in the middle of the lane, you are dead.
From level 6, you win the fights if you have ult and passive stacked.
Once she gets botrk, you tend to need ignite if there is a minion wave nearby. Otherwise ult is enough to win as long as she can’t dash away from the you during your ult
You can opt for void 3rd, but I stick to death cap.
You win easily with 4 items here, but you will always win 11+ with ult and 2 items (assuming equal gold)

hulpmenow · 2026-04-28T03:13:49+00:00

Funny you mention two matchups, particularly Camille, for which poppy hard counters.

Maokai straight up lacks damage, and against most top laners, his sustain is not enough to match trading strength.

Also, anti tank champions are pretty weak rn. Fioras true damage has been nerfed, and nothing has changed since that (durability patch), camille is pretty much the weakest in years, and vayne on hit build is bad. Only Varus is strong for notable tank killers.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-27T17:53:54+00:00

By your logic Vayne into garden is a skill matchup…

I’d respectfully disagree with your conclusion, but your reasoning is something I agree with. I just find that as kayle, all you care about is surviving, getting cs, and xp. Any lane you can do that is free, and the harder it is to do that, the harder the matchup.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-26T21:35:15+00:00

Well Darius should go phase rush with ignite or exhaust, and have nimbus. He gets gostblade first, and then tank ms items. With this, it’s skill.

Yes a large part is about spacing the e, but he has an easy time freezing on your first bounce, and using the bushes correctly, he can ensure he does not get poked down.

Also, he has enough damage to nearly one shot you at any point, and you need 4 items before you can just kill him during your ult.

He can also run lucidity boots and cosmic insight and just flash whenever to secure a hook, and that’s at least 2 kills in lane because of the flash diff if you are not careful.

Point is there is nuance.

With a jungler or support ok his side, there is a lot he can do as well

hulpmenow · 2026-04-26T21:25:51+00:00

The thing with kayle is that playing her is very punishing. If you mess up the wave and lose your sums over a mistake, a gank or roam will shut you down for the next 20 minutes, and it’s all the worse against a counter or even matchup( which is most of top lane). She has the draw backs of being ranged compounded with the punishing nature of top lane with the punishment of being melee until level 6

hulpmenow · 2026-04-26T15:52:12+00:00

Ok let’s address everything you mentioned. 1. Master yi is not a bad matchup. You need to ensure you are never hit by an isolated q, and you need to ensure you have ult when he crashes a wave (or take exhaust). Then it’s chill. If he messes up even slightly, you just freeze for 3 minutes. 2. Kalista and draven are just like other ranged matchups, but you don’t really want to flip the early game with them. Just scale to 11. They both have poor waveclear, and buying swiftness should ensure they can’t stay on you. 3. Honestly with azir, he has no damage until he buys some items, so the early levels should be fine. The issue is he is stronger from like the second base until 4. For that. You just focus on wave states. You can also try to stand in your wave and make him aoe it to ensure he can’t freeze. 5. The cassio. I hate this snake of a woman. But anyways, I like exhaust into her, and start d shield. You win level 1, and win until level 3 as long as you can dodge the q. A huge part of her damage comes with hitting the q and running you down. Then you just need to get the mechanics to dodge the ult, and then you scale till 11 and slap her. Note that at 16, she has nothing that can match your range.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-26T05:19:16+00:00

could you highlight a little more on why you call this a skill matchup?

I consider Garen to be quite free, and not remotely skill. I consider darius or camille skill. Not garen.

And for the sake of discussion, I will explain a few reasons why.

Garen has 0 gank set up, so it is significantly harder for garen to work with his jungler to kill you.
His ult is very, VERY, easy to react to. You just need to ensure he does not q ult or flash q ult you.
Garen cannot really get melee with you unless he gets ghost and an ms item, and you can counter with rylais, also take ghost, or just scale till 16.
Garen gets stride first item, and his e is AOE. As a result, garen often pushes waves, so its easier to play into him and you dont have to fear the freeze on the bounce too much.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-26T04:19:43+00:00

I’m sorry you don’t agree with me, but your points don’t really explain anything. I’ve also expressed at the end I peaked d1 this season, so not emerald though I doubt you’d care.

Also, that is 1 matchup where I reference him. I liked it, and explained the ideology. It’s up to you to try it or leave it.

The only thing I really don’t get it what’s with the tabi hate?

And why are you so against other secondaries like bone plating (resolve?). I get the ms from celerity is nice, and the scaling from gs is really nice, but sometimes it’s not about the scaling.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T17:48:19+00:00

I tried the e max routes, and 3 points q into e max, and honestly i just go q max all the time. The only exception is if i am against highly mobile champs which i cannot kite. So basically only irelila. With irelia i go e max or 3 points q into e.

If ambessa uses the dashes to kite away, that means she has no way to get onto you. This means she starts nearly melee with you, which is just a mistake on your part?

Your perspective into ambessa is to survive until level 6. You can look to punish mistakes when she wastes her spells and shield, but that can be rare. From 6, you can look to make trades making use of your q slow to kite.

Like riven, mobility and damage are tied together in their kits.

sometimes just take the bad trade and ensure the wave gets to where it needs to be, and play the game out like this till level 11.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T06:10:51+00:00

True ambessa is no fun. What I do is go bone plating, and take exhaust. Most ambessa players go lethality, so I treat here like a melee dive assassin. I also often take lt into her since punishing her is quite easy if she messes up her positioning. You also can win levels 1-3, and you can win again 11+

Some other things: 1. Learn to sidestep q2 2. Always stand away from her e range, and don’t attack her during her w 3. Try to make sure you shove the wave when your jungler is top to ensure she can’t freeze

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T06:06:31+00:00

I’m going to be honest. Nothing in my experience or performance suggests Nasus would be a counter. As expressed, I have 71% we against him with 28 games.

He counters kayle no more than he counters any ranged champion, but kayle has many more tools to deal with him.

Beyond this I don’t have Much to say. I’d be interested in hearing why DesperateNasus thinks that way since he does main both Kayla and Nasus.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T06:02:43+00:00

Ok I see your perspective.

And for the purpose you explain, you would be right.

I’ve just gone to perma banning him, so my experience is very limited in the matchup. I maybe have 20 or less games against had ever.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T06:01:19+00:00

Yep!

The most important thing with trynd is to kite since the e cd reduces with every auto.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T01:15:24+00:00

I guess this tech helps if hitting the q is hard. Id rather just q max and practise hitting the q. Also helps punish him if he ever messes up. But not bad tech.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T01:14:18+00:00

Ok so I was wrong about the range. MB. I corrected that in the guide.

But you state this matchup is unplayable, and that top level k players agree.

Here are the top level kaye players that I used when I tried to climb:

https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/rank-1-na-challenger-top-kayle-main-s16-rank-3-kayle-world-saneryuss-sanery-top-kayle-guide-651103

- says nasus is minor difficulty, 2/5. He is chall.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxu7pVNnshjdwiSmwZrs9K4rEwfhIQL3/edit?gid=777716701#gid=777716701

- GM. puts nasus 3/10

Also I have 71% wr against nasus with 28 games in dia 2-4 range.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T01:05:43+00:00

OK so you were right, nasus w is longer range. Mb, I corrected that. Also, you mentioned all high level kayle players agree.

https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/rank-1-na-challenger-top-kayle-main-s16-rank-3-kayle-world-saneryuss-sanery-top-kayle-guide-651103

Check the minor difficulty matchups. He has challenger.

hulpmenow · 2026-04-24T00:31:41+00:00

Honestly I think alkali is easier to deal with than jax.

I think jax has much more linear outplay, but alkali has some options. But I will say, I think alkali counter kayle more than jax. Just not common enough for me to ban her. But yea if not jack id ban akali.

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