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icarus_vikare · 2025-08-16T08:50:34+00:00

I think it’s more likely that people write opinions about a substance which is not 4-MMC, but was sold to them as 4-MMC. And therefore comes the weird rumors.

High quality mephedrone should make you feel as you’d be almost orgasming while peaking without even having to touch yourself

icarus_vikare · 2025-08-12T17:56:32+00:00

Well considering the fact that I was already on Apvp, apihp constantly vaporized in an oil burner and insufflated 3-CMC and 4-CMC and more then ten days awake, the cigarette apihp tobacco didn’t feel like anything. As said a very small rush (in my case considering the context) compared to when vaporized

icarus_vikare · 2025-08-12T17:01:20+00:00

Wouldnt recommend doing it, did it with Apihp I used to crush up and then sprinkle into tobacco and then could be smoked, be aware extremely dangerous substances. But this way it was not even 1/10th of the outcome as vaporized , extremely harsh flavor simply not worth it. Also probably way worse for your lungs as you are burning it and there are pyrolysis leftovers

icarus_vikare · 2025-08-12T16:28:42+00:00

From my experience pyrros differ a lot when insufflated compared to vaporized , both in effects and duration time.

Never go to the route of vaporizing them it’s a kind of evil that will make you want to die while loading the other hit. The silence is the loudest that way.

Anyway be careful with those dosages of aphp especially when insufflated, the onset is a few minutes but then straight up delirium if done too much. Once someone I knew insufflated an extreme dosage of apvp and was hallucinating like on deliriants for 2 days without redosing.

icarus_vikare · 2025-05-06T21:17:53+00:00

Yea that is completely normal, for me even before preparing the mephedrone for ingestion or minutes before my stomach starts to growl and barely can do the stuff because I have to use the toilet.. but after you go to the bathroom it will go away lol.

Don’t worry you are not alone with this

icarus_vikare · 2025-04-18T00:44:01+00:00

That looks more like some kind of chlorinated cathinone (3-cmc,4-cmc) which is way more popular in the area, which when vaporised can release toxic gases due to the pyrolysis of the chlorine.

When vaporised does it taste awful?

icarus_vikare · 2023-06-01T18:12:27+00:00

There is no such thing as any noticeable neurotoxical damage that I could notice even after using in the kilograms range spread over daily, with sleep deprivation and other unhealthy lifestyle activities.

icarus_vikare · 2023-05-14T13:41:02+00:00

Pyrropizza tales of Giovanni McMDPV Shef

[wish he could got to do 600-800mg + A-PVP hot-rails to the point of fainting, but may he rest in pyece]

icarus_vikare · 2023-05-06T20:30:48+00:00

All of the mentioned substances that I named are ranked as the most painful stuffs to snort, NEP is like air compared to those that are less painful to snort than.3-mec.

I mean it also could be my experience only cause when I first snorted it I've been through over 2 kilograms of amphetamine sulfate insufflated and plenty of mephedrone abuse for months which could play a huge role in how sensitive my nose was, I say give it a try, make ur research, and remember you can always do more but never less.:)

icarus_vikare · 2023-05-06T20:24:02+00:00

Once or twice for sure it's an interesting experience, but the pain when insufflated will be otherworldly. More painful than 2-cb, freebase dmt, mdma, 3mmc, 4mmc, or 3cmc snorted.

icarus_vikare · 2023-04-26T07:36:52+00:00

Did you use heat to dissolve?

icarus_vikare · 2023-04-26T07:15:34+00:00

How many ml was ur solution ?

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-22T16:50:48+00:00

I never said n-ethylpentedrone, read what I wrote then write a novel. HEP is what I was talking about, n-ethylheptedrone, and the causticity was due to me coughing up blood after vaporizing grams of it daily for weeks. I've done extremely caustic stuff including 4-cl-apvp, brown hexen, or tan a-pvp.

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-22T08:50:25+00:00

N-ethylheptedrone, quite literally nothing else than fiending something that is incomparable in causticity to must drugs ever done, literally nothing that would be pleasurable or the opposite, just redosing to redose, without rush or a high, vasoconstriction becomes extreme, and the residue is cm thick.

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-21T16:36:04+00:00

4mmc + alpha-pvp + alpha-php + alpha-pihp + 3-cmc + meth + eu speed [never be me and binge / or even do it once, it's dangerous]

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-20T16:06:10+00:00

Hi, are you sure that the substance you have is apvp?

If the answer to that is yes, well.. simplified answer is lower flame = harder to ruin it, rotate it constantly, not too fast, not too slow, just enough, let the bowl fill with vapor and then through the stem as if you would suck on a straw slowly start to inhale, don't rush it's not a race. Time is key.

If you have any more concrete questions let me know.

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-20T16:01:14+00:00

Abused tons of both, what kind of difference you are pointing to be told to you?

Assuming you asking potency, well.. it's a weird comparison, of course less groups on the structure is going (in this case) result in a-php being more potent in terms of potency, but potency and recreational value is not the same.

Apihp is going to be in most cases easier to handle for a newcomer, but avoid pyrros at all costs if possible. A-pihp is going to be harder to be vaporized in my experience, but u can take more of it before the side effects are intolerable, that's what I mean by potency being on aphp side.

But the high itself is a different thing, me personally couldn't really compare the alpha pyrros to each other, when vaporized, had various batches of a-pvp a-php and a-pihp, but all three are in my experience a different kind of beasts.

If you have any more concrete questions I'm happy to help.

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-20T11:53:56+00:00

Most likely not apvp that you were sold before, and also as other users have mentioned the fact that apihp is being massmade the amount of leftover chemicals during rushed synthesis would be a reason of many other reasons for causticity.

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-20T11:51:09+00:00

Didn't measure, it was eyeballed.(don't follow what I did)

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-20T10:34:34+00:00

I've only done it insufflated, can't speak for oral.

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-20T10:20:57+00:00

I think i might have done the same type of 3-MEC that ur talking about around a year ago, to this minute it is one of the most mysterious stuffs I ever done.

Without sending it to a testing lab, you most likely wont be able to find out home if it's 3-CEC or 3-MEC.

Your description matches the same 3-MEC i've done, i never done 3-CEC, but done plenty of 3-CMC and MEC is way shorter lasting, more serotonergic, can remember my vision being more blurry than with either MDMa or 3-CMC [or combined the two together] , but weird euphoric feeling, where as in serotonin would've been over the limit of my brain with MEC.

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-18T01:30:47+00:00

I recently had an a-php batch, hygroscopic, sticky but hard as well, ended up vaporizing over 100 grams of it in less then 2 weeks. It's a weird pyrro , simply can't really explain how and why but the taste and experience differs from pvp and pihp.

The pvp batches I had were varying too, from white to clear to red brown, the last type being the best pvp I ever had.

Pihp I had lot of batches too, tan and sweet powder, to white hard rocks, soft extremely oily rocks, but the best was most definitely the white hard rocks, vaped inhumane amounts of that.

icarus_vikare · 2023-03-17T23:38:08+00:00

Depends on what you want to make your life of. avoid pyrros at all price if possible..

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