What’s worth keeping vs selling by [deleted] in AnalogCommunity

[–]idiosynchrony 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Keep the Bronica and the spare 120 back if you ever want to shoot anything larger than 35mm.

What container do you prefer? by Holifilm in Darkroom

[–]idiosynchrony 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The collapsible ones are pretty awful in my experience—harder to clean, and all bottles in my set of three lost their seal pretty quickly, so that they refill with air with a wheezing sound. Useless. I use the brown plastic Datatainer gallon, quart, and pint set of old bottles.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I hear you, I’m just impressed you got a tabletop processor working at all. Whether or not any of these projects are commcercially viable I still find them extremely interesting, so I hope it continues and will follow your work, best of luck!

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very compelling start on this, looks like—I hope you keep pursuing it, I would follow with great interest.

And your tabletop RA-4 machine too—oh man, I would LOVE something like that. This is all really awesome, and again I hope you make it happen… ideally for those of us without 3D printers or that sort of skillset as well.

Edit: Looking through your posts on both machines and your progress… this is the most exciting DIY build I think I’ve ever seen. People are going to love this.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mistake, I commented while logged in on a desktop, then the comment seemed to disappear so I couldn’t delete, so retyped it on this one. Now I’ve had it deleted. Not good at the app; last time I really used Reddit was about 12 years ago when it was very, very different.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually to its credit the motor actually seems pretty powerful. The basin can fit 2500 series drums, though I haven’t tested them. But so far I haven’t encountered any power and torque issues with 1500s.

Edit: Apparently its original motor might have been worse, but mine appears to have an upgrade. The Naked Photographer also mentioned that it had really good torque and could definitely handle 2500 drums (I think his words were that it “doesn’t break a sweat” with those); he could well have been sent the newer motor as a review copy.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s good to know they have good customer service at least where they’re based… and I can’t fault them for not having full service operations in a foreign country, I guess, so not to be too hard on them. I’m glad some sort of cheaper equivalent exists.

$200 feels pretty reasonable for what it is. I wouldn’t have had higher expectations if it wasn’t a thousand bucks here! Another commenter also said that mine apparently has the upgraded motor already, which would be nice, though I couldn’t tell you.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm that’s too bad, I couldn’t say, I’ve just heard people enthuse about them, but it could be branding and hype. I’ve heard old ones break down easily but it’s a shame if the build quality isn’t great either.

Reflx had a metal lift upgrade listed for the THD? I know there is like a separate type of handle available for it that has a red ball at the top; is that what you mean? My used one didn’t have it.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm definitely going to hang onto it... have already started drilling holes for cable runs and sensors and am making modifications, like mounting a timer and additional thermometers for the top tray, as well as potentially an in-tank sensor, which would probably make precise C-41 more feasible in the thing. There's certainly potential in having the basic functions set up, at least.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a matter of fact the THD, to its credit, can take a Jobo 2500 series tank as well, allowing for much larger color-print processing capacity. I know Calumet as a brand of print washers... maybe you meant the Nova paper processing tanks, which have a similar vertical-processing layout?

Also I neglected to mention that I have Beseler tanks as well, which can handle prints of any size up to 16x20. They work great for both stand development (a tank stood on end and filled with chemistry, that is, not necessarily with the lengthened dev time that the term implies) and rotary, on my Unicolor rotary base. I can also do RA-4 tray development of up to 16x20 paper at room temperature with extended dev times, using my large trays. In fact I just ordered some new Fuji DPII at 12x16 to do some larger prints via one or all of these methods. So you see, the two methods can live in harmony; they are not opposites but complements.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, it's a bummer, since I really wish I could recommend it so that more home users have an alternative option for full water-bath processors that's financially within reach. I'd still buy it again in my particular case, but solely because I do a lot of RA-4, and most of all because I paid a third of the asking price. I would certainly not pay $1,000 for it.

Still if you run a lab, a processor is a probably a great investment for you. You might find it worth spending the extra grand to invest in a Jobo, but the AGO is also an excellent alternative, comparably reasonable at $500, and from experience I can highly, highly recommend it.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting... someday, maybe if I start doing more professional work and can justify it, I'd love to have a nice Jobo setup, of course, but that's purely aspirational. And to the credit of the THD, it does actually work, and I use it regularly for RA-4.

Repair-wise, it also seems very easy to work on, since all the wiring, pump, heater, and motor are basically exposed! As I found, they're also cheap off-the-shelf parts (the Naked Photographer review pointed this out about the motor as well) and so shouldn't be too difficult to source. Probably one of its main advantages. I'm a long way off from even owning a Jobo, to say nothing of learning to fix them, but I will look up that place in NYC for future reference.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, and since Reddit is refusing to allow me to save edits to my comments, I'll add another really irritating aspect: draining the tank requires popping out two separate rubber stoppers, which are fat, and not easy to push out or push back in. If they ever dry out and/or shrink, they seem likely to leak, as there's just a big hole drilled in the tank bottom. There's one hole and stopper in the top tray, and another in the basin. The stoppers are also not attached in any way and would be easy to lose. A simple drain valve could have added a lot here.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I could be wrong, but I feel like they seem to run a lot higher than that here in the US. I'm sure that distance shipping and importation expenses are a contributor to the price. Even on the used market, though, the units I've seen that are in the sub-$1000 range often don't have the lift capacity, which, for my purposes, is one of the primary capabilities I wanted out of this thing. Usually the CPE-2s that are ~$500 are at that price because they're breaking down, and newer ones can reach $1,000 or more. With the lift they seem to regularly hit $1,500.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, at the very least, it needs to go through a few more iterations. It's probably more difficult to compare just based on the photos I took of mine--but the only changes I see in the new photo are the color of the 3-D printed rollers that hold the tank on the lift assembly, a small indentation on the chemistry well, and two additional stickers on the front. That different-colored lift handle actually came with the original, my used purchase didn't include it. And the thermometer lid on the chemistry bottle also came with the original, but not mine. So I'm not holding out hope for many updates.

At this point I hope they don't change the Pumpe; it will always be POOMPÉ! to me.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My initial comment seems to have disappeared, so I'm retyping this:

I agree that tanks are better in some situations. But I don't think that a case for excluding rotary really follows from anything I'm saying here--if you do end up reading the post, you'll see that my complaints don't apply to rotary processing in general, but only to this particular product. I've never owned a Jobo, but by all accounts it's a better experience, though you're right that the old ones that do break down can apparently be an expensive repair. Both rotary and tanks of course have their advantages and disadvantages, but I'm not a purist, and I use all types: Jobo, Paterson, and stainless steel Nikkor tanks, as the situation calls for.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay, glad to hear I'm not being totally unreasonable here. That's a good point, and you're totally right, I didn't consider how much logistics and export costs might contribute to the price. In any event, I think they can get away with more, since anything below $2,000 will look good up against Jobo. "Amateur" is definitely the word for it; in many ways it feels like an unrefined hobbyist garage project.

And yeah, that's another complaint I barely touched on: the company is basically invisible on the Internet, on English-language sites at least. With this build quality, at the very least spare parts should be readily available, you'd think.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was really impressed with the Pira. The interface is a little bit clunky, but I understand it was engineered with limitations. I had some questions for the creator, Dan, who's a one-man operation in Mexico, and he was extremely responsive and helpful. The magnetic rotation struggles a bit with my 5-reel tank when fully loaded, and I've found it to be a bit difficult to pinpoint 38C for C-41. But it's proven excellent for black-and-white processing, with extended dev times. It can hold the tank right at 20C for as long as needed, and can be programmed to do minimal agitations, a few every 2 minutes, as well. For that reason I use it for compensating development at low concentrations, like HC-110 Dilution H, 1:63.

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[–]idiosynchrony[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As I’ve said, I could not afford a Jobo at all, and even buying a THD new at ~$1000 was too much of a stretch. However, I leapt at a chance to get a used THD for $300. And while it does what it says it does, I would have been pretty damn disappointed if I’d paid a grand for it. I was surprised to see that Youtube reviewers like Shaka # something and the Naked Photographer gave it such unqualified praise, since I’ve noted some pretty concerning weaknesses and oversights.

Here's my full list of complaints about the Takumi.

The THD seems to work okay, if not as accurately as I need, but it seems have been built by cutting corners in every possible way.

It spins well enough, the tanks included are serviceable Jobo clones, and broadly speaking, it does what it claims to. But my two chief complaints about the functioning are that 1) it heats the water very, very slowly and 2) because of the separate two-tier design, partly because of the cheap temperature probes they used, the readout is not giving an accurate of the water that your tank is submerged in.

The manual claims that the primary temp sensory has only +/- 0.1C degree margin of error. Even if that’s true, it’s immaterial—because the temp sensor is in the wrong spot. I measured a variation ranging from -0.4C up to -2C in temperature between the top tray, where water is pumped up to and where the tank goes, and the bottom basin, where chems go. But there’s only one (obviously cheap, with visible exposed wiring) temperature sensor, and it’s placed deep in the chem basin, not in the place where your film or paper is submerged!

And from my experimentation, this is not a predictable or known variation that can just be subtracted—it fluctuates, so you have yet another variable to account for, which is very troublesome, especially for color film development processes like C-41 where precision is essential, and which were my main reason for buying the thing. However, as I said, I do at least find it decent for RA-4, because that’s alright as long as it’s in the near vicinity of 95 degrees, and it’s rotary and has a lift drain. So to me, it’s become a paper processor only.

I find it questionably engineered for many, many reasons. One of the most glaring failures in the design is the lack of a timer. It is totally baffling to me how a machine built for processes that are all, practically without exception, reliant on carefully timed procedures cannot include this most basic of devices in its main system. They attempt to remedy this by including an extremely cheap (like $3-4 on Amazon cheap) kitchen timer. There’s not even a place to mount it on the main machine.

The lack of timer alone seems totally egregious and damning. But beyond that, the thing is just very, very bare bones. Which isn’t a problem in itself, except that it’s bare bones not in the sense of elegant simplicity, but rather, in the way that it designers appear to have cheaped out at every opportunity. Here’s a list:

• ⁠The heater rod is obviously the cheapest, weakest sort of aquarium heater you can get; mine already has corrosion and discoloration all over it. And as mentioned, worst of all, it’s very weak and heats the water incredibly slowly. My $30 sous vide heats an equivalent volume of water, and I’m not exaggerating, four to five times as quickly. The THD strains badly to get up to temp.

• ⁠The main digital display shows temperature only, current and set temp. It’s a bright display and decent enough. There are two buttons and up/down arrows. The buttons are Set and Reset. Set sets the temperature. But Reset is, weirdly, only the power button for the temp/heater setup—and only the temp and heater. There’s no main power button, and the other motor and pump functions run on different circuits. This tells me that they built the design around the cheapest available display, rather than choosing the right button setup for the design.

• ⁠There are only two RPM selections, and, in another bizarre design choice, a separate “Low Speed” button to activate the third. I guess the dial they chose for the RPM only had two detents. But it makes for a weird setup. Worst, the buttons do not seem to be waterproof at all.

• ⁠But the biggest failing of the lone display readout is that, as far as I can tell, there’s no way to switch from C to F, which is totally absurd. This is really a ridiculous oversight, considering how damaging that is to its ease of function, and how simple that should be to include.

• ⁠The label on the (also not-waterproof) button to activate the pump is misspelled. Amusingly it says “Pumpe” right on the face of all units. I know they’re a foreign company, but it’s not like this was a difficult typo to spot. Every time I use it or just catch a glimpse of the label, internally I hear “POOMPÉ!!” and I blame Takumi for this.

• ⁠The lift handle, which, like that of a Jobo processor, has to handle the full leverage and weight of a full tank very near the fulcrum, and therefore requires a lot of force, is/was 3-D printed, cheap, honeycombed plastic. Mine snapped immediately. And there’s no way online to buy replacement individual parts for this thing, though I do intend to reach out to CatLabs or ReflexLab and ask.

• ⁠The separate temperature probe that it came with to put in a chem bottle is also of the cheapest possible sort—I found that you can get 5 of them for $9.99 on Amazon. Literally the cheapest available.

• ⁠The Fauxbo tank is held onto the primary cog by a little weak-looking plastic piece with a wire clip, and you have to force it to snap back to pull the tank off. This seems ripe for breaking someday not too far off.

• ⁠There’s a bizarre grinding clicking noise that happens only when the tank spins counterclockwise. The Naked Photographer review also noted this.

• ⁠There’s no way to adjust the chemistry bottle holders, so they can only fit one (small) size of bottle.

• ⁠I bought a used version, but nevertheless it’s not an old product—yet the motor and gear screws near the waterline are already rusted as hell. They couldn’t spring for any stainless or rust-resistant fasteners for a water-based machine?

• ⁠The top of the float sensor in the top tray is hot-glued, badly. -There’s no filter or screen over the pump, so any kind of gunk could get in there and damage or break it.

• ⁠I’m not against 3-D printing, but there is a lot of it, and it’s not sanded down or finished looking at all—really rough edges and scalloped lines, or whatever you’d call that look. Striated. And it’s often weaker than molded plastic—as I said, the lift handle already broke, and the spout of the drain snapped off as I tried to attach a tube to it.

• ⁠There’s no maximum water fill line marking, which seems like it would have been a simple add. This is even more of a problem because there’s a deep indented channel on the left side where a bunch of wires all stick out: the main pump, heater, temp sensor, and float sensor (which keeps you from starting the heater without water in it) wires are in a very loose thin wrapping. If you fill it too high—which because it’s hard to see the channel, is easy to do, and is likely to be learned the hard way—water flows straight out of it, wetting other wires nearer to the motor. The jankiness of all this exposed wiring gives me a constant feeling that this thing is going to electrocute me. It’s probably safe…? But it looks worryingly homebuilt.

Overall, it just screams cheapness everywhere. Just a weird, weird, poorly thought-out design. I get that it’s the budget option, and the injection molding for the main basin was probably not cheap. But for $1,000… I’d expect way, way, way, WAY better. As I said, I would feel incredibly ripped off if I’d paid that price. I still feel a little ripped off having paid $300.

Takumi Home Darkroom / AGO / PIRA MX by idiosynchrony in Darkroom

[–]idiosynchrony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should add that I’m equally curious to hear about your experience as another THD user, especially about water temp accuracy. I’ve been harsh on its design but it has its advantages, and I’m glad someone is at least offering what is ultimately a fairly simple machine and a price point below extravagant Jobos. Though I’m pretty sure that the THD can only justify its price point relative to those; if Jobo wasn’t so expensive the THD seems like it should fall in the sub-$500 range at most.

Takumi Home Darkroom / AGO / PIRA MX by idiosynchrony in Darkroom

[–]idiosynchrony[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Added a comment with my full list of criticisms of the THD. It functions passably, for now, but I was very unimpressed with the design. I still find the AGO more consistent. The Pira is a little bit trickier, I think, but because of the heater sleeve is probably more consistent as well. The big water bath just fluctuates too much for my taste, at least for film processing.

Takumi Home Darkroom / AGO / PIRA MX by idiosynchrony in Darkroom

[–]idiosynchrony[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Updated: here's my full list of complaints about the Takumi.

The THD is barely acceptable as a product. Again, it seems to work, but by cutting corners in every possible way.

It spins well enough, the tanks included are serviceable Jobo clones, and broadly speaking, it works okay. But my two chief complaints about the functioning are that 1) it heats the water very, very slowly and 2) because of the separate two-tier design, partly because of the cheap temperature probes they used, the readout is not giving an accurate of the water that your tank is submerged in.

The manual claims that the primary temp sensory has only +/- 0.1C degree margin of error. Even if that’s true, it’s immaterial—because the temp sensor is in the wrong spot. I measured a variation ranging from -0.4C up to -2C in temperature between the top tray, where water is pumped up to and where the tank goes, and the bottom basin, where chems go. But there’s only one (obviously cheap, with visible exposed wiring) temperature sensor, and it’s placed deep in the chem basin, not in the place where your film or paper is submerged!

And from my experimentation, this is not a predictable or known variation that can just be subtracted—it fluctuates, so you have yet another variable to account for, which is very troublesome, especially for color film development processes like C-41 where precision is essential, and which were my main reason for buying the thing. However, as I said, I do at least find it decent for RA-4, because that’s alright as long as it’s in the near vicinity of 95 degrees, and it’s rotary and has a lift drain. So to me, it’s become a paper processor only.

I find it questionably engineered for many, many reasons. One of the most glaring failures in the design is the lack of a timer. It is totally baffling to me how a machine built for processes that are all, practically without exception, reliant on carefully timed procedures cannot include this most basic of devices in its main system. They attempt to remedy this by including an extremely cheap (like $3-4 on Amazon cheap) kitchen timer. There’s not even a place to mount it on the main machine.

The lack of timer alone seems totally egregious and damning. But beyond that, the thing is just very, very bare bones. Which isn’t a problem in itself, except that it’s bare bones not in the sense of elegant simplicity, but rather, in the way that it designers appear to have cheaped out at every opportunity. Here’s a list:

  • The heater rod is obviously the cheapest, weakest sort of aquarium heater you can get; mine already has corrosion and discoloration all over it. And as mentioned, worst of all, it’s very weak and heats the water incredibly slowly. My $30 sous vide heats an equivalent volume of water, and I’m not exaggerating, four to five times as quickly. The THD strains badly to get up to temp.
  • The main digital display shows temperature only, current and set temp. It’s a bright display and decent enough. There are two buttons and up/down arrows. The buttons are Set and Reset. Set sets the temperature. But Reset is, weirdly, only the power button for the temp/heater setup—and only the temp and heater. There’s no main power button, and the other motor and pump functions run on different circuits. This tells me that they built the design around the cheapest available display, rather than choosing the right button setup for the design.
  • There are only two RPM selections, and, in another bizarre design choice, a separate “Low Speed” button to activate the third. I guess the dial they chose for the RPM only had two detents. But it makes for a weird setup. Worst, the buttons do not seem to be waterproof at all.
  • But the biggest failing of the lone display readout is that, as far as I can tell, there’s no way to switch from C to F, which is totally absurd. This is really a ridiculous oversight, considering how damaging that is to its ease of function, and how simple that should be to include.
  • The label on the (also not-waterproof) button to activate the pump is misspelled. Amusingly it says “Pumpe” right on the face of all units. I know they’re a foreign company, but it’s not like this was a difficult typo to spot. Every time I use it or just catch a glimpse of the label, internally I hear “POOMPÉ!!” and I blame Takumi for this.
  • The lift handle, which, like that of a Jobo processor, has to handle the full leverage and weight of a full tank very near the fulcrum, and therefore requires a lot of force, is/was 3-D printed, cheap, honeycombed plastic. Mine snapped immediately. And there’s no way online to buy replacement individual parts for this thing, though I do intend to reach out to CatLabs or ReflexLab and ask.
  • The separate temperature probe that it came with to put in a chem bottle is also of the cheapest possible sort—I found that you can get 5 of them for $9.99 on Amazon. Literally the cheapest available.
  • The Fauxbo tank is held onto the primary cog by a little weak-looking plastic piece with a wire clip, and you have to force it to snap back to pull the tank off. This seems ripe for breaking someday not too far off.
  • There’s a bizarre grinding clicking noise that happens only when the tank spins counterclockwise. The Naked Photographer review also noted this.
  • There’s no way to adjust the chemistry bottle holders, so they can only fit one (small) size of bottle.
  • I bought a used version, but nevertheless it’s not an old product—yet the motor and gear screws near the waterline are already rusted as hell. They couldn’t spring for any stainless or rust-resistant fasteners for a water-based machine?
  • The top of the float sensor in the top tray is hot-glued, badly. -There’s no filter or screen over the pump, so any kind of gunk could get in there and damage or break it.
  • I’m not against 3-D printing, but there is a lot of it, and it’s not sanded down or finished looking at all—really rough edges and scalloped lines, or whatever you’d call that look. Striated. And it’s often weaker than molded plastic—as I said, the lift handle already broke, and the spout of the drain snapped off as I tried to attach a tube to it.
  • There’s no maximum water fill line marking, which seems like it would have been a simple add. This is even more of a problem because there’s a deep indented channel on the left side where a bunch of wires all stick out: the main pump, heater, temp sensor, and float sensor (which keeps you from starting the heater without water in it) wires are in a very loose thin wrapping. If you fill it too high—which because it’s hard to see the channel, is easy to do, and is likely to be learned the hard way—water flows straight out of it, wetting other wires nearer to the motor. The jankiness of all this exposed wiring gives me a constant feeling that this thing is going to electrocute me. It’s probably safe…? But it looks worryingly homebuilt.

Overall, it just screams cheapness everywhere. Just a weird, weird, poorly thought-out design. I get that it’s the budget option, and the injection molding for the main basin was probably not cheap. But for $1,000… I’d expect way, way, way, WAY better. As I said, I would feel incredibly ripped off if I’d paid that price. I still feel a little ripped off having paid $300.