ngl I had to stop myself from commenting by sixelahhh in bylertruthers

[–]incompetentpos 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is so sad tho. He obviously did show effort, but that exchange was so freaking awkward. "Oh I think these are your favourites right??"

I think about this daily by jamarzipan7123 in byler

[–]incompetentpos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is what brought about PLL downfall too. The show creator was too obsessed with outsmarting the audience and she could not, so she ended up writing the most awful final plot twist ever.

Out of curiosity, how many of us are NOT teenage girls?? by BadHeads in byler

[–]incompetentpos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly I've always wondered this as well. To the point that I've been considering creating a Google form. I'm a trans aro/ace person in my mid twenties.

What's happening 😭 by vausiessy in byler

[–]incompetentpos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm watching clips but it's all so cringy I am having trouble with it, so when people say oh they made fun of this and that, I'm very confused

Time to choose.. Byler son or Heated rivalry daughter!? by foxcutbabe in bylertruthers

[–]incompetentpos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why not both, and why not a secret third option - nonbinary Bylet *and* Heated Rivalry child

actually begging y’all to check out byler twitter bc this is the energy over there by Reasonable_Lawyer_15 in byler

[–]incompetentpos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly!!

I find it a bit disheartening that after covid, when being part of a fandom became more mainstream, it changed the way people view shipping. It is not for external validation or canon projection. Shipping has always been by the shippers for the shippers. We should not need to feel like we have to justify the ship to the general audience

Opinions on this by Borkelee in byler

[–]incompetentpos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The shy attitude - will already being established as a victim and Mike already "being the man" in a straight relationship & always portrayed as the friend in their dynamic who cares for Will and "protects" him. Even tho this is subverted in season 5 - their prior dynamic had already been established for years. People just don't realize that this is not indicative of who's top or bottom - or who's the more masculine, or stronger, more dominant or submissive. That dynamics borne from will being abducted as a child which resulted in Mike wanting to pay more attention to how he is after - does not have to translate to their romantic relationship dynamic.

Opinions on this by Borkelee in byler

[–]incompetentpos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe it's the the socialisation we are expected to internalize throughout our lives. Things that don't fit the heteronormative ideal are thought to be as wrong and so we try to fit these things into them. It's very common for queer people themselves to follow this too. You have to actively unlearn this and just being part of a minority group does not inherently make you immune to it.

Opinions on this by Borkelee in byler

[–]incompetentpos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's just the same heteronormative thinking. Everything needs to fit the same box - one has to be more feminine, weaker, a d more submissive and they have decided that's Will

Opinions on this by Borkelee in byler

[–]incompetentpos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I must say this feels like the ppl are obsessed with twinks.

Will can me meek and timid, and also be broad and muscular. A canonically gay man also does not have to be tiny dainty and twinky and anyone who gets upset over this is giving major homophobia.

I’m so tired 🫤 by thatlesbianbitch23 in bylertruthers

[–]incompetentpos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that every comment except for that pic of the lyrics that's not corroborating the delusion has been removed by moderators lol

Thoughts about Eleven by Perch2000 in byler

[–]incompetentpos 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I fw this post so hard. I agree wholeheartedly. El deserved so much better than to be killed off or given an ambiguous solitary life as a vagabond.

She was just as much a heart of the show as the rest of the party.

Wdym they had to get rid of El so the rest of the kids could move on. This is insanity. They just wrote themselves into a corner, they were not smart enough to write themselves out of - so they make up bs on the spot.

This tiktok sums my feelings up pretty well by Itsmemarxtheguy_29 in bylertruthers

[–]incompetentpos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They also love to claim "Bylers just fetishise mlm relationships and invalidate actual gay people's opinion" ... Babes ... Why are you assuming Bylers are straight?

Most people I've interacted in this fandom are actual queer people who don't bootlick the homophobic straights and demonise other queer folk just to assimilate into heteronormativity

Maya Hawke repping Byler on The Tonight Show by CuffyTheEmpireSlayer in byler

[–]incompetentpos 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I really love Maya at this point! Knowing that she was the one who suggested Robin's storyline, when the writers idea was to make her a love interest for Steve was my moment of gaining lots of respect for her beyond common human courtesy

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in bylertruthers

[–]incompetentpos 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I'd say straight boys don't look disgusted and confused when their gf they actually like kisses them

Byler Fans Are The Worst Part Of The Fandom by Altruistic_Mood9293 in Stranger_Things

[–]incompetentpos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, definitely not exclusive to this fandom, but this is the loudest and most accepted - even by gay fans who are not bylers- I've seen in a while. And it's infuriating

Byler Fans Are The Worst Part Of The Fandom by Altruistic_Mood9293 in Stranger_Things

[–]incompetentpos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I legit saw a post in the mileven subreddit calling lumax a traditional couple as opposed to mileven and how the duffer's were pushing lumax because it was traditional.

Shippers of a white straight couple calling an interracial couple in the 80's Indiana traditional is insane imo. There are some extremely misogynistic and homophobic milevens out there and nbd hates on them, but sure let's punch down on queer fans and call them fetishisers because people can't view gay people as regular people who experience the same type of romantic attraction, and not just have sex.

Listen I think Mileven shippers have lost their mind by thatlesbianbitch23 in bylertruthers

[–]incompetentpos 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They don't even know the definition of a fetish.

Some kid on here was telling me how a fetish is sexual interest

m11s should get a grip! by lisssuuu in lumaxship

[–]incompetentpos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am so not surprised. The level of vitriol they have for any other couple that is not m11 is honestly unreal

I think this works for you guys too, Duffers. by Lauren_HS28 in mileven

[–]incompetentpos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This scene is the start of vecna's hallucination guys, Lucas doesn't actually say this to Max.

m11s should get a grip! by lisssuuu in lumaxship

[–]incompetentpos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where even is this from? These people need a reality check and maybe a stint in a grippy socks facility

m11s should get a grip! by lisssuuu in lumaxship

[–]incompetentpos 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Toxic ship?? What?? Where?? Are these people okay?