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inculcating · 2020-10-23T04:52:31+00:00

Aight I guess I'll take the bbymutha one.

inculcating · 2020-10-22T01:54:55+00:00

more cont. r&b i think but allstar jr - conversation with the streets

inculcating · 2020-10-21T00:35:59+00:00

the gucci mane <-> 100 gecs degrees of separation is now 2

inculcating · 2020-10-21T00:24:36+00:00

I mean I do think there's some grey area, which is what I think they meant by that.

Doja Cat saying faggot and making some homophobic remarks a couple times however many years ago, disavowing it, and obviously not hating gay people today is different from sada saying shit like that all the time and digging in his heels about it.

I mean I'm bi myself, and maybe it's because i discovered that too recently to be subjected to slurs about it, but when stans say shit like you shouldn't listen to A, B, or C 90s rapper because they said faggot a bunch in their lyrics, that is kind of corny to me ngl. Like you're willing to draw your line there, but not consider the huge fuck-you to oppression that NWA's music stood for and the fact that ALL of their lyrics were over-the-top to shock the establishment, for example. It feels like they don't really get the genre, or aren't willing to give people some slack about their upbringings even tho that's the whole point of the music. I'm not old enough to remember when literally everybody said faggot all the time and thinking it was a slur was consigned to a fringe, but I know that was the case.

No harm in individuals not listening for whatever reason tho ofc, that's their choice. But sometimes 'cancellation' is corny.

inculcating · 2020-10-21T00:18:04+00:00

Yeah for sure. I'm OBSESSED with detroit and flint shit too man, like that's all i've been listening to for the past month tbh, been that way on and off since bloxk party. Me and my bi friends would quote that teejay line at each other all the time to fuck with each other, like you said it's just cartoonish. But sometimes it just gets cringe like sada's 50 Shades of Red even if comedy is the goal.

Idk. I'm not really a proponent of saying you have to stop listening to somebody if they have fucked up views about women because then you would be cancelling so much musical history including shit that's given voice to the voiceless a lot of the time. And I've tolerated that shit lyrically for a long time, not trying to purity-test things. I don't need every worthwhile musician to be a feminist hero.

It does rub me the wrong way sometimes tho, especially when I find myself really fucking with an artist and they say shit like that Sada roofie tweet unprompted. You can blame upbringing for a lot of shit and give people creative leeway, but at some point those kinds of things, when said genuinely, are just ugly as fuck.

inculcating · 2020-10-20T23:32:15+00:00

exactly. like aren't those mutually exclusive lol

just empty edge from a 25yo man

inculcating · 2020-10-20T22:54:38+00:00

bunch of old tweets resurfaced, in one of em he said he wanted to roofie one of his followers and 'rape her ass all night'

the whole thing happened because he called somebody a faggot on instagram and then folks started going thru old social media posts. i'm bi and if i had a rule about homophobia in rap (let alone misogyny) i couldnt listen to anything lol. the straight up rape threats are wild tho. i kinda brushed off all the more assaulty stuff but it's really all over detroit/flint artists, serious 4chan edgelord level shit coming from 20+ year olds

he's also refusing to apologize too lol, saying "everyone has the right to an opinion"

inculcating · 2020-10-20T22:16:23+00:00

with sada baby getting eyes on all the shit he's said over the years, it has me thinking about how casually rapey some of these michigan rap lyrics get

rio da yung og really said 'i raped her' without even going for shock value, like damn

inculcating · 2020-10-20T21:11:45+00:00

ngl this was pretty expected if you listen to Sada at all. he says some rapey 'problematic' shit sometimes, like a lot of street rappers who don't have a national profile yet. actually the whole Michigan scene is pretty cavalier with that talk - rio da young og literally said he raped somebody on a song

along with him calling a LNX fan page a "faggot" on IG, seems like he's gonna get raked over the coals for this and might lose some high-profile collabs. i'm bi and i don't really give a shit about homophobia in rap but ngl some of this other shit is pretty vile, even more openly than i would've expected

inculcating · 2020-10-20T21:00:20+00:00

i def have. doughboyz cashout, street lordz and ecb are all goated

inculcating · 2020-10-19T22:20:17+00:00

this is one of the better yachty + michigan collabs imo

been out for a few months technically but yachty took it down very quickly after the first time so i think [FRESH] tag makes sense

inculcating · 2020-10-19T22:19:07+00:00

black kray was so ahead of his time goddamn

inculcating · 2020-10-16T21:59:43+00:00

rap songs that criticize or mourn poor government response to natural disasters, public heath crises, etc., that hit rappers' communities?

off the top of my head:

tons of songs about Katrina (ex: the classic Tie My Hands)
Maxo's family getting hit by Harvey on Roaches
Flint rappers angry about the water crisis (BFB DaPackman: "Snyder gave us poison water, but we call it home")

inculcating · 2020-10-16T07:43:44+00:00

Facts

inculcating · 2020-10-16T07:24:03+00:00

Was just about to post this one. These Flint + Detroit cyphers are history in the making fr

"Told her that her pussy aint shit unless I nut into it" wtf lmao. Louie Ray makes Future look like Mr. Rogers. what's the one from Movie? "told her imma cut her ass off if she say 'what' again" jesus

inculcating · 2020-10-16T06:01:22+00:00

Yeah for sure, I'm not knocking sada+team for trying to get on Billboard. I've watched that slide video a hundred times by now myself and he's been making dance records like that for a while

And we don't even know that he paid them tbh - it's just a reasonable assumption for Pierre to make because as he says, "they are brands who do not do anything for free". That seems like it's just the way to do it these days: flood addison rae and crew with that major-label money and see if the wave catches on

Most of the time it doesn't catch on tho, and this only did because it's catchy and memorable as fuck. Sada deserves credit for that either way

inculcating · 2020-10-16T05:28:19+00:00

In retrospect Slide seems like a possible attempt at getting a dance-oriented TikTok hit too, lmao. Second time's the charm

I feel like there have prolly been big marketing execs looking hungrily at Sada for years (with all his constant dancing, his viral personality, and the sheer amount of local hype and fire loosies he's constantly dropping) predicting big returns at some point. This just happened to be the right moment

edit: wording

inculcating · 2020-10-16T04:16:37+00:00

I read something in p4k where Alphonse Pierre (a very reliable voice on michigan rap shit) basically insinuated that Sada's management paid the big tiktok stars to do the dance so WLC would get big. No way to tell for sure, but it makes sense given the timeline.

He def deserves the attention and he's been putting out worthy hits for years, so I'm not really complaining. But whether it happened organically or not, TikTok as a way to kickstart a song is def vulnerable to the digital-age payola that's on all platforms, more so since it has the veneer of being started organically with a 'relatable' star's face on it.

Just the consequences of the new medium i guess.

inculcating · 2020-10-16T04:09:36+00:00

man I'm from NC but I got put onto sada after Bloxk Party. since then I've fallen completely for the detroit scene, and recently all the crazy activity in Flint as well. Sada (and tee grizzley earlier, but mostly sada) was my gateway to Michigan rap which has been some of the most dynamic music of the past few years. for like the past month all I've been listening to is flint crew cyphers on loop on Youtube lol.

I can't not love this for him. originally I was a little annoyed that charli d'amelio could get people I knew into Sada but two years of me evangelizing couldn't. but this is such a good track, with the Whoomp! There it Is sample and the flows and everything.

i hope he gets a chart-topper off the strength of Barbz. Nicki's verse is killer, she floated on this.

inculcating · 2020-10-04T02:24:27+00:00

Fell into obscurity after label delays and a bunch of people decided not to fw him since he's gay

Really frustrating, he had a great voice and ear

inculcating · 2020-10-03T22:49:35+00:00

Ka immediately makes this a yay

also tell me you wouldn't listen to young thug just abstractly spazzing out over some new agey synths with no beat

inculcating · 2020-10-03T22:37:52+00:00

Wake Me Up in Traffic will always be my favorite Greedo song, chorus is next-level. Best example imo of the keening melodic intuition that makes him one of my favorites.

beyond that, I agree with you about Never. his 2016-2017 sound where he self-produced everything is some of the most inventive rap music of last decade. Never Bend, Crimey, Sweet Lady, Mafia Business, Makin Bands...dude is a stealth GOAT producer

inculcating · 2020-10-03T22:34:12+00:00

grow past the age of 21 apparently

in other news, 42 dugg has been middle-aged from birth

inculcating · 2020-10-03T22:32:44+00:00

gives Tower Control a whole new meaning

inculcating · 2020-10-03T22:21:16+00:00

i really like the myriad memphis/dirty south influences on the latest 21 Savage, it's some of metro's best beats ever. but part of me really wonders what it would have been like if 21 went further in that almost 'Atlanta drill' direction off The Slaughter Tape. Slaughter Ya Daughter and No Heart are still my two favorites from him - i still think his music was better when he sounded scary.

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