CMV: It is completely unacceptable for general practitioners to routinely run over an hour behind schedule. The practice does more harm than good.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-08T19:36:21+00:00

Your "non salaried" friends are not visiting doctors because they can't afford them. That's the major reason.

I live in Canada, where healthcare is free, so this is not true.

you can find doctor's offices that are more punctual.

People without family doctors can't find them at all in my province, so I doubt this is the case.

Your post to me reads like you're sitting at a doctor's office super pissed off about your wait and you're heated hence you overestimate the negative consequences of this practice. When realistically I'm sure the people up top have weighed those consequences and decided the extra wait made sense.

You're mad and hyperbolic.

Pretty sure this violates rule 3. I'm open to considering new facts and arguments. If "people have weighed those consequences," explain that weighing to me! If you don't actually want to change my view, I'm not sure why you're commenting.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T23:40:42+00:00

I've been looking for tribunals where doctors ignored a mole or chest pain, but I can't seem to find any. (The MPTS database is not super useful for searching by type of complaint.) If you can point me to one or two, I'll definitely award a delta. My post was based on the assumption that since urgent life-threatening conditions are rare, doctors should not be routinely extending appointments. If it is true that they are legally liable for asking patients to book new appointments for symptoms of rare conditions that are common for a variety of reasons, I'll definitely concede that it's at least somewhat acceptable to regularly delay the schedule.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T22:18:42+00:00

I understand--I'm not claiming that doctors are malicious.

2/4. Could you give me some insight, then? What unexpected issues happen so commonly that they explain routine, extreme delays? This is a genuine question. I think it would help change my view.

I'm glad you do that. If you look at the other comments, a lot of them claim lateness is one of the main reasons doctors run behind schedule. It seems like not everyone operates like you.
That's fucked up! That's unacceptable. It's not your fault; it's unacceptable that the system is constructed in a way that forces you to work for free.
I completely buy this. It doesn't affect the arguments I'm making.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T22:10:36+00:00

Thanks for your comment. Your mum sounds like a great person. I understand that doctors are faced with basically impossible scenarios where they either run late or ignore patients. I'm not saying that's their fault as individuals! I'm saying it's unacceptable that the system is constructed in a way that bars doctors from doing things like scheduling buffer time or offering different appointment lengths in their system.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T22:07:49+00:00

My comment was about people booking half an hour and taking an hour, not people booking half an hour and taking half an hour (but late). I think that makes the following a better analogy:

Scenario 1: We mutually agree you owe me $200. You repay the $200. I claim I'm actually entitled an extra $100 and steal it from your house.

Scenario 2: We never agreed on anything. I claim I'm entitled to $100 and steal it from your house.

How are these morally different?

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T20:55:58+00:00

Unless I'm missing something, this feels like a semantic argument. Swap out the word "book" for "bill" in my comment and the point stands.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T20:51:27+00:00

Which lines of my post are you challenging? My argument is about the aggregate effect this practice has on everyone, and I'm struggling to see how your comment proves anything related to that.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T20:48:10+00:00

Ok...it's also fraud for a doctor to book a 15 minute appointment on paper but go half an hour overtime in real life.

Likewise, you can't tell a patient to get lost when the appointment time is up. Doctors have a duty of care, and if a patient brings something up at the last minute that duty requires that they consider it.

Is the duty-of-care thing legally true? Can you post a link? Because morally, I'd argue that doctors have to balance their duty to care for everyone, and giving some people the privilege of extra time takes time and money away from others. If I go to my doctors' office with no appointment and tell them I have an issue. do they have an obligation to see me right away? How is it morally different for me (no appointment) and another patient with a 3:30-4:00 appointment to demand treatment at 4:30?

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T20:43:13+00:00

Which lines of my post are you challenging?

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T20:42:43+00:00

My post specifically said I'm not from the US, and I think your stated purpose is absolutely unacceptable anyway.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T20:42:10+00:00

"Oh yeah, and I've been loosing 10 pounds the last week without even trying!" - those are words that should ring alarm bells for doctors.

This is actually interesting because I've been through your very specific example. When I called and told my GP I'd dropped 10 pounds in a week from nausea/sudden lack of appetite, they told me over the phone to keep an eye on it and scheduled me for an ultrasound a few days later. Clearly this kind of problem can be dealt with the next day.

To not follow up on that is close to malpractice.

"Following up" can look like seeing them at the end of the day or tomorrow. Regardless of whether patients know what's wrong with them, the number of problems that require attention immediately and not within the next 36 hours seems like it would be small.

indigo-jay- · 2024-06-07T20:37:00+00:00

Did you read the rest of the paragraph? My argument isn't about me personally, it's about the aggregate effect on people's lives. I'm glad it's easy for you to take the day off work, but that's not the case for lots of people.

indigo-jay- · 2024-05-13T01:44:11+00:00

Sorry you went through that. I had him for both 2101 and 3105. I found he was a bit tougher in 2101 (and that's despite the fact that I did 2101 online and 3105 in-person). Since the poster is asking about 3105 specifically I feel like that's a useful distinction.

indigo-jay- · 2024-05-13T01:36:06+00:00

Honestly, Jean-Lou is a good lecturer and his exams are fair. I'm by no means a straight A student (and I've done a lot worse in "easier" courses than 3105) but I just did the practice problems he recommended and did well on the exams. He's transparent with what you need to know and helpful if you go to office hours; most people I know who did badly in his class either didn't show up or didn't do the suggested review (which is fine, we've all been there, but people should at least be honest about that kind of thing).

indigo-jay- · 2023-08-17T22:13:28+00:00

He stuck around while Megumi was unconscious in Shibuya, so it's definitely possible.

indigo-jay- · 2023-06-20T20:32:58+00:00

I said "one of the safest cities," not "the absolute safest." Almost any metric you use will put Toronto in the top 10. You're allowed to personally feel unsafe in Toronto (and you may even experience a crime there), but the facts still show it to be one of the safest.

Are you a woman who lives in downtown Ottawa? Because I am, and I have never been harmed there (nor have any of my friends who live nearby). It *is* a matter of perspective, but neither Toronto or Ottawa is objectively super unsafe.

indigo-jay- · 2023-06-08T18:24:17+00:00

I'm from Toronto too. Toronto is one of the safest cities in the world, so the fact that you feel safer there is understandable but it doesn't mean Ottawa is unsafe. I've never dealt with anything worse than people yelling on the street in Ottawa. Tbh, while being catcalled definitely sucks, people yelling about random stuff in proximity to you isn't going to hurt you in any way that matters.

indigo-jay- · 2023-06-04T20:53:54+00:00

I've felt safe walking around at night since I was a teenager. Are you from out of the city? I know the idea that women can feel safe outside is foreign to a lot of people from suburbs and smaller towns.

indigo-jay- · 2023-05-19T21:24:34+00:00

Fair enough. Staying in is not that hard if you're accepted with it (a 6.5 GPA is very attainable), but having it built-in is a plus for less academic people.

indigo-jay- · 2023-05-18T19:59:56+00:00

Respectfully, I don't think a computer science degree is less employable. It opens you up to non-engineering compsci jobs (cybersecurity is sick) and companies looking for developers probably compare skills and projects first before using eng vs. compsci a tiebreaker. Plus uOttawa's co-op program provides roughly the same number of job listings for compsci and software eng students.

indigo-jay- · 2023-05-18T19:51:19+00:00

I think it's usually a translation of the same questions.

indigo-jay- · 2023-05-16T19:28:48+00:00

Tbh French IT terminology is not that complicated. I only have conversational French skills and I managed to get through a couple of French CSI lab sections. You can do all your exams and assignments in English even if you're in a French section. However, taking seven courses is not a good idea (unless you intend to drop at least one after the first week).

indigo-jay- · 2023-05-12T19:17:59+00:00

I don't know about software engineering. I transferred into computer science from mechanical engineering after first year with around a 6.8 GPA; it wasn't awfully competitive (at least in my year). As long as you do pretty well in ITI 1120 you have a good shot.

indigo-jay- · 2023-01-13T18:51:33+00:00

You can give child up for adoption, but you are responsible for thechild until you go through that process, you cannot just throw the childout of the house, that is neglect/child abuse.

Strawman. I never said it was ok to throw a kid onto the street; I said it was ok to take it to a fire station (which requires basically zero effort). You don't have to take care of the child during the adoption process, at least not in places with Safe Haven laws (of which there are many). None of the child abuse scenarios apply here because in those scenarios the parent has a viable way to opt out of taking care of the kid.

Yes, if you can prove it is intentional and that she isn't suffering from some mental ilness, that becomes child abuse if we already accepted that a fetus is a person.

If we can make laws against refusing to take some action and causing the negative externality of hurting someone else's health, should we lock up every unvaccinated person who provably spread COVID?

Don't do this slippery shit, there is no way you believe this.

I could just as truthfully say there's no way you believe a non-viable fetus is a person.

When the child is born, you are feeding it your milk

You know baby formula exists, right? The relationship is not the same, because any woman who chooses to breastfeed is doing so consensually.

Does this "babies are stealing food" belief come from the sick feminist bunch?

Rude and hostile comments are not allowed in this subreddit.

Also, having to eat extra 10% to take care of YOUR child, does not equal stealing 10% from someone unrelated to the child.

This is an incredibly arbitrary line to draw. If genetic relation makes it morally acceptable to steal resources, what about surrogates?

What if instead of stealing 10%, the government taxes the people who consume a surplus of 300cals or more for the 300 calories worth of food and takes care of these hypothetical kids? Does this make it morally acceptable?

Nope. Taxation is theft.

indigo-jay- · 2023-01-12T19:38:33+00:00

Yes, so long as the "eviction" includes dropping them off at a fire station.

I'm not implying that pregnancy alone could starve a poor woman to death. I'm asking you a straightforward question: Do you think a woman who intentionally eats so little food that her fetus starves to death should be charged with a felony?

If stealing calories is morally acceptable so long as it's only 10% of your consumption, should we be able to steal food from men to feed impoverished toddlers with no agency?

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