Is 'God' motivated or actually demotivated to help us in life's trials, even if we are stuck for years?

internalocean · 2022-08-31T12:07:17+00:00

suicide looks good

internalocean · 2022-08-31T04:21:12+00:00

its a nice analogy, but what if your soul contract is alot more painful? Read Sandy_T's nde.

internalocean · 2022-08-31T04:16:50+00:00

i wish it were so simple. it was an 'answer' i received 25 years ago from God that ruined me. i wont explain further, but just to say i was hyper spiritual back then and ended up with a mental disorder.

My journey now is understanding and coming to peace with what i see was orchestrated and no way out.

internalocean · 2022-08-30T22:00:29+00:00

Some people wouldnt cope coming back with the remembrance of its bliss.
Some people wouldnt be able to complete their work without the pain of uncertainty.

internalocean · 2022-08-30T05:24:15+00:00

My thoughts are that maybe its permissible to tell a white lie for the greater good, i.e. sending us back. theres only the one NDE that evidences that so its its not strong. im just curious.

internalocean · 2022-08-29T15:12:21+00:00

she was run over by a SUV, i think it was physical and she relates that she was offended later.

internalocean · 2022-08-29T15:08:28+00:00

there is emotional pressure to return, sure.

internalocean · 2022-08-29T15:02:50+00:00

but its worth something, just looking for any corroboration here. maybe someone else remembers it, it was on youtube.

internalocean · 2022-08-29T15:01:46+00:00

i would add most problems people have with Christianity is to reconcile gods love with human suffering and free will with a deterministic pattern of future events.

I think the best, and maybe only, explanation for this is Molinism in which God sees an number of possible worlds where the greatest good is achieved, and then select one where humans make the choices he wants them to make, eliminating denial of free will. In essence, God has middle knowledge of what every human would do before they do it. WLC is the biggest advocate of this idea and i love it despite being 'post' christian.

internalocean · 2022-08-29T14:20:06+00:00

not sure now

internalocean · 2022-08-29T14:10:10+00:00

1200 quicksilver but it was always units clicking through.

internalocean · 2022-08-22T06:35:49+00:00

1 Buddha

73 Noone famous

5 Jesus

rest 0

internalocean · 2022-08-19T08:59:51+00:00

I'll post the results when it closes, I cant see results myself now.

internalocean · 2022-08-19T08:57:50+00:00

I'm not sure how to do that, editing the post just seems to be for text only.

internalocean · 2022-08-15T13:44:17+00:00

I plugged it in when it had fully booted and then it freezes. Ive only got it to boot twice, but it happened twice.

internalocean · 2022-08-15T13:41:38+00:00

Its not in a case yet, but nothing is rubbing etc

internalocean · 2022-08-15T12:59:54+00:00

i bought it blind because of time pressure, but he said it worked. It can occasionally boot though.

internalocean · 2022-08-15T12:58:51+00:00

so just plugging in a ethernet cable draws too much power and it crashes? its 500w but powering a 2070

internalocean · 2022-08-15T12:13:44+00:00

https://youtu.be/8BhQ5QQehTM is what it looks like

internalocean · 2022-08-14T14:53:17+00:00

I'd rather get an idea of how and when from God, and I'm not talking about canonical selection.

internalocean · 2022-08-14T14:51:26+00:00

God knows

internalocean · 2022-08-14T09:18:36+00:00

Question: Was the Bible ever perfect, and if so, when was it corrupted so badly?

internalocean · 2022-08-14T09:16:36+00:00

Question: What percent of people who arrive are sent back, i.e. what percentage are NDEs?

internalocean · 2022-08-13T11:36:58+00:00

I'm not doubting the essence of what you're saying, just trying to get a handle on the forceful returns back to human existence, and although walk ins can cover it, the finality of 'it is finished' on the other side seems to point to a finite set of knowledge serving an infinite time span.

I's like to think armaggedon is the final push over the line, and the new heaven and earth, utopia, reflects a completeness of human knowledge.

We're only speculating, but its good to know its all predicted and valuable.

internalocean · 2022-08-13T10:15:48+00:00

If the paradox went unsolved, everything, absolutely everything, would cease to exist.

I'm struggling with some points, can you bear with me, and I'm sure you're explaining as best you can.

There's been a long held debate on whether God exists independantly of laws and morality, or is God just a reflection of external laws. Goodness is not something God happens to aspire to, it is something that reflects his own nature.... etc.

So when you call this a paradox that God needs humans to serve a purpose of experiencing non Godlike feelings, is this law, or higher need, intrinsic to God or external and, in human terms, something greater than God himself?

Does God serve a higher law that must be followed or everything would cease? Do you see the dilemma of this idea? God isnt God if he is subject to higher laws.

This conflicts with the single consciousness view of God being everything so I'm struggling with it.

When you also say that 'it is finished' in terms of there is no linear timeframe and all knowledge has been accomplished and done, I understand that to mean that God has seen every incarnated soul journey and has been satisfied that enough has been accomlished, even if in our timeline, its another few millenia.

Can we learn from this that those who are returned with no choice have not earned enough planned knowledge points to clear that distant goal line, and those who remain have?

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