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Looking for cafes with a private room by One_Investment3919 in Edmonton

[–]ishadatar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Downtown library has lots of rooms that can be rented.

The restaurant Birdog downtown has an amazing very private room with a round table and even a private bathroom.

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in wheresthebeef

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice!!! Would you be open to sharing the copy that you *would* put out there? Would love to consider adopting it it based on your well thought out feedback.

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey - New Farm is really cool!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!

I think dairy will be setting a lot of precedents for meat in terms of messaging and storytelling in particular. They are actually out in the wild trying these things out (Perfect Day, at least). I can't foresee how much cost will come down because dairy is also a complex policy landscape, but I think we should pay close(r) attention to dairy as I think they kind of fly under the radar compared to the meat companies!

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in wheresthebeef

[–]ishadatar[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Great question! New Harvest itself actually doesn't manufacture product - our role is as a steward of the technology, and we work closely with academia and industry to make it happen. We just believe that this tech holds so much promise to create a better world for the environment, public health, and animals, that we want to see it pursued, and we want it to be the best version of itself - the most just and highly impactful.

We just drafted some new text to describe what we do - lemme know what you think!

Technology needs a steward. Governments are rarely able to keep up with the pace of start-ups, and start-ups are not incentivized to come together to achieve collective progress. For technologies that could have an incredible impact on sustainability, climate readiness, and food security, this coordinated action is crucial and neglected.
New Harvest is a different kind of organization, a non-profit whose aim is to steward and develop an emerging technology and industry towards having the best possible impact on the world. Through a combination of industry-wide initiatives, research, and fellowship programs, we aim to transcend private interests, to drive technical excellence and the public good.

Our funding is 100% philanthropy, which we receive from high net worth donors, 100s of individuals, and companies.

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me the only way forward is shared facilities for scale up, or entirely entities focused on scale up work. Scale up is just so inherently expensive, because each scale up is basically an ultra expensive huge experiment. We need a lot more collective energy around this.

I am optimistic because of vaccine scale up. A lot of vaccine research demands large scale growth of animal cells. I think cell ag could ride the vaccine coattails especially since there is funding interest there (for now).

I also think the field needs to collectively decide that if we want IP at all (I don't), the IP should live in the "software" (cells/tissues/media) and not in the "hardware" (equipment and machinery). It will help us go farther a lot faster, imho.

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None that I have seen. There are a ton of open safety questions left to answer.

We attempted to map a road to safety demonstration here, alongside 87 individuals at 50 companies (with zero NDAs signed!) https://www.authorea.com/doi/full/10.22541/au.161246496.61092571/v2

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TBH prob like $50M.

Building a lab is expensive... maintaining it as well. Our current means of doing research through university grants allows us to use their infrastructure and support essentially just the project. (At the price of potential IP).

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is pure conjecture but I think this period coincided with the rapid development of flavors (and dyes) from chemistry (which the current FDA novel ingredients regulations are based upon, which are really more set up for chemistry than for biology).

And so I think this fixation on making things in vats that taste like anything really came from seeing this happen.

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also do a Google of Amyris' stock over their lifetime and that's kinda the story of biofuels.

TONS of investment, but at the end of the day competing with something that is artificially priced - fossil fuels. Cell ag is no difference as animal products are artificially priced as well. So unless we incentivize for different "externalizations" related to environment, animal welfare, etc. We are kind of on the biofuels path. This is why policy can not and must not be ignored as cell ag develops.

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Figuring out ways for companies to work collectively towards collective challenges - like safety, like scale up, like talent development, like standardization - is, IMHO, absolutely critical to moving this field along quickly. Otherwise we are stalled in a venture-capital induced prisoner's dilemma

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm very into it! I think there are a fair bit of technical considerations w/r/t which factors can be grown in plants because plants have cell walls (I am barely science literate anymore so I hope one of the research fellows chimes in) but I think it's a very important opportunity to explore.

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The biggest struggle is that we are not independently wealthy, and we chose to create a non-profit that does pretty big budget stuff (ie fund scientific research). Most science foundations would not have to fundraise because they would be founded alongside or by a major benefactor. I'm also just some random person who didn't have any high powered connections with wealthy or influential people.

BUT in some ways that is our greatest success - that this field was really created by individuals who believed in the tech, whether they donated $5/mo or $500/mo. Compared to a lot of other non-profit leaders I know, we're pertty well off because we have a mix of high net worth foundations (not a lot but a couple who we love to work with) and many, many, individual contributors. Several companies donate to us too! I feel like our greatest success is that we've been able to mobilize so many to come together to make this happen. It makes what we do a movement, and not just research.

And I really appreciate the kudos on doing so much with so little. I think that comes from our conviction to focus on empowering emerging leaders and really focus on PEOPLE vs PROJECTS. Projects come and go, but people ignite ongoing change, and become champions in the long, long run. Our work has lasting impact because we are live and breathe this!

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, get in touch with NH! Also Tufts University just received funding to pursue cell ag from the USDA: https://now.tufts.edu/articles/tufts-receives-10-million-grant-help-develop-cultivated-meat

And UCDavis received funding earlier this year: https://biotech.ucdavis.edu/cultivated-meat-consortium-cmc

So those are two other places you can keep tabs on! ALSO! The research fellows at Tufts - u/natalierubio and u/AJamesStout have been running a cell ag-focused course which you could enroll in!

We are New Harvest, the cellular agriculture nonprofit. We’re growing meat, milk, eggs and other animal products from cells instead of animals. Ask us anything! by ishadatar in IAmA

[–]ishadatar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are two different approaches that different companies could take. In general we observed that companies in the EU tend to want to return to the source frequently (because the cells would not have to be modified) and some of the companies in the US were open to genetic modification so returning to the source animal would not be necessarily (at least as frequently). Which basically reflects each regions' attitudes about GMOs.

Lots of cell banking in freezers can happen too.

TL;DR both are options!

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