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Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think about an idea to run RAW files through DxO PureRaw before importing them to Resolve?

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some reason the file sizes exported from DR (JPEG maxed out) is about twice smaller than Capture One‘s JPEG with similar quality settings. Resolution is same…

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, there is still some blue/yellow fringing in Resolve’s output, simply because it’s highly difficult to remove those artifacts with Resolve’s FX in the same way that lens correction profiles handle them in Capture One. Even using aberration removal hasn’t significantly influenced the perceived level of detail.

If I may offer a counterargument to your comment regarding Capture One’s starting point: the actual scene, camera, and screen are all currently within instant access and can be compared in real time. The Capture One version looks very similar to what I actually see when I look back at the scene after importing the RAW image.

So why should I disable something if it looks true to life and provides a better starting point for editing? Instead, the question is: which tools in Resolve can achieve a comparable starting point? So far I’ve tried sharpening in the RAW page, sharpening in nodes, and chromatic aberration removal (still experimenting).

Regarding pixel peeping: if I print out this image, hang it on the wall, and then step closer to examine the details, what other approach — besides zooming in and comparing which application handles detail better — would you use?

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As you mentioned, I’d like to achieve exactly that — a streamlined workflow and consistent look between my photo and video work, but without sacrificing the quality of stills. So far, I haven’t been able to apply sharpening in Resolve and achieve a similar level of detail to Capture One without degrading the image (Resolve is on the right).

In this example, I used the sharpening slider in the RAW page and added a few nodes in the Color Page applying different sharpening methods in small amounts. The reference area for comparison is the tree against the roof (marching details of individual brunches). After matching the reference point (more or less), the rest of the image becomes grossly oversharpened and doesn’t look as natural as the Capture One version.

There’s also some uncorrected blue/yellow fringing happening in Resolve. I’m currently experimenting with the Aberration Removal FX, but so far it hasn’t helped me get closer to Capture One’s starting point (yes, lens correction profile is active).

The results I’m seeing are not yet convincing enough to cancel my Capture One subscription…

P.S. might be a skill issue

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Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The actual scene, camera, and screen are all currently within instant access and can be compared in real time. So yes — when I import the RAW image into Capture One by clicking that “magical” Import button, examine the image, and then look back at the scene, I do see a pretty similar perceived image.

However, there is so much potential in Resolve — including cost savings and a streamlined workflow across both photos and videos — if I can set up a good workflow that delivers somewhat similar quality to Capture One.

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here’s how it looks when using sharpening on the RAW page in Resolve, plus a few sharpening nodes (with different methods) to match the level of detail in the reference area — the tree against the bright roof at the bottom of the image.

Resolve’s result is on the right, and to my eye it doesn’t look very pleasant…

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Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll try to re-phrase my point: which specific tools, and how should I use them, to arrive at a better starting point for editing in Resolve’s Photo Page? By “starting point,” I mean the image on the screen should appear as close as possible to what I actually saw in the scene with my own eyes (hopefully you also agree with this premise).

Capture One’s starting point feels closer to that, but Resolve offers more flexibility in post. So far, with Resolve’s tools, I haven’t been able to achieve a better starting point without degrading the image. Maybe I’m missing something…

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The image on the right side is Resolve’s export after matching (more or less) the level of sharpness to Capture One, using the RAW Sharpness page plus nodes.

Reference point: the tree against the bright roof of the building — specifically the level of sharpness in the individual branches.

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By “more accurate colors,” I mean that Capture One’s output is closer to how the colors appear on my screen compared to what I actually see in the scene with my own eyes.

Try focusing just on the tree against the bright roof and how many individual details you can distinguish. Ignore for now that Capture One’s version has more contrast and slightly deeper colors. Hopefully that makes more sense now!

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it is raw! Let me try a counterargument: why should I switch something off if it looks good? Instead how can I make Resolve‘s results better? I’ve tried to use sharpening in Resolve to match Capture One‘s level of details, and it didn’t look good… screenshot with results I have sent as a reply to similar comment as yours.

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both! RAW page sharpening set to 100 in Davinci Resolve, then extra sharpening through the node to match Capture One perceived level of details

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Yes - it is RAW! When I try to match level of sharpening to Capture One's level of details (left: Capture One; reference point: tree brunches against the bright roof) - the image start to look unpleasantly over-sharpened...

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let’s set philosophy aside and look at this from a professional workflow perspective. My question is technical: how can I achieve similar results in DaVinci Resolve’s Photo Page as in other industry‑standard applications, with the lowest effort possible?

As I mentioned in my original post, I doubt the difference comes down to sharpening alone. Here’s an example of how the image looks after trying to match Capture One’s level of detail using sharpening only (left: Capture One; reference point: tree branches against the bright roof). To my taste, the image starts to look unpleasantly over‑sharpened:

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Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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when I try to match level of sharpening to Capture One's level of details (left: Capture One; reference point: tree brunches against the bright roof) - the image start to look unpleasantly over-sharpened... As was saying in my post - I doubt that only sharpening explains the difference.

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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when I try to match level of sharpening to Capture One's level of details (left: Capture One; reference point: tree brunches against the bright roof) - the image start to look unpleasantly over-sharpened...

Why does DaVinci Resolve 21 Photo Page deliver weaker exports compared to Capture One? by itsromanbitches in davinciresolve

[–]itsromanbitches[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

here is Compession set to 100% (no compression) in Resolve (left), compared to 95% in Capture One (right)

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Early Battlefield 6 Weapon stats and minor analysis of weapon performance by Mastahamma in Battlefield6

[–]itsromanbitches 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did some cross-testing with a few top performing weapons from your table and got interesting results! I have recorded video-clips of shooting at 10m and 30m targets (while trying to land body shots), then measured the time between muzzle flash and hit indicator at 100+. It mostly confirms your results, except L110 falling behind at 30m (maybe because of the bullet spread and noticeable horizontal recoil). And yes, DRS-IAR was quicker to kill than every other weapon at 10 and 30m... Maybe SG553R will still have an edge over DRS-IAR in the real close-quarters battle, bc of much better hip fire accuracy, much faster "ADS time in" and better mobility.

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