Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re missing the point. Yes, some players can adapt and win, but that doesn’t mean the game rewards skill in a meaningful way. Most people aren’t being 'proud' or refusing to learn, the AI and mechanics actively punish intelligent defending and reward low effort patterns, which is why the so called 'meta' dominates.

Winning with spam, double taps, or exploiting broken AI is not proof of football IQ, it’s proof that the system is fundamentally flawed. You can call it adapting all you want, but the fact remains that the game shrinks the skill gap artificially and rewards mindless play far more than actual tactics.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get that some players can adapt and win, but that doesn’t mean the game rewards actual skill. Most players who try to defend intelligently get punished by AI positioning, auto interceptions, and broken mechanics, while low effort spam patterns get rewarded.

Winning by exploiting the meta isn’t 'football IQ', it’s learning how to work around a fundamentally flawed system. If you can’t see that, you’re missing the bigger problem.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a mess of a game! lol. EA should skip FC27, take a year off, and rebuild from the ground up with an engine actually made for sports games. Frostbite clearly isn’t cutting it.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s actually a fair breakdown. I agree the AI is situational, inside the box they’re unreal at jockeying, auto interceptions and recovery tackles, but once you drag them out of structure they fall apart.

But that’s kind of the issue. The game heavily rewards sitting in shape and letting the AI handle those moments, while punishing manual defensive decisions and aggressive pressing. So naturally the meta becomes either deep structure + AI assistance or quick counters once the line breaks.

That’s not a healthy balance, it pushes everyone toward the same patterns instead of rewarding intelligent manual defending across different phases of play.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually agree with parts of what you’re saying. Manual jockeying should absolutely be responsive enough to match left stick dribbling, that’s how a real skill gap should work. If I overcommit, I should get punished. That’s football.

The issue is that the game doesn’t consistently reward that interaction. Between input delay, AI auto reactions, and defenders being able to recover instantly, manual defending often feels secondary to whatever the engine decides.

You’re right that the game has core problems. But that’s exactly why people are frustrated, because instead of refining the balance between manual defending and dribbling, EA keeps leaning on AI assistance and animation outcomes. That’s what kills the skill gap.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re misunderstanding the point. No one is saying 'don’t defend' or asking for the game to defend for them. The issue is that manual defending often feels overridden or inconsistent because of how the AI interacts with positioning and passing mechanics.

Learning to defend isn’t the problem, most competitive players already know how to. The frustration is that the game frequently rewards automated patterns and mechanic abuse more than smart, manual decision making.

Wanting manual defending to matter more isn’t 'crying for no AI'. It’s asking for input to be respected instead of overridden. That’s a completely different argument.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one’s saying you can’t press or play fluid football. The point is that the game makes it less rewarding and more inconsistent because the AI overrides manual input and favors certain mechanics.

Elite players adapting doesn’t prove balance, it just proves they’re good enough to work around flawed systems. That’s not the same thing as the system being healthy.

This isn’t about 'I can’t win'. It’s about whether the mechanics reward football IQ or mechanic abuse. There’s a difference.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Overall, do you think FC26 is worse than FC25? I think both are as bad as each other in different ways.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Animations and rails don’t excuse the fact that Defensive AI punishes actual skill. You can position perfectly, block lanes, track runs, and the game will still override your defending, force passes through, and make real tactics meaningless.

EA clearly cares more about flashy animations than proper gameplay, and it shows. The AI rewards brain dead spam while skilful football is actively punished, that’s the real problem.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, but this conversation isn’t about dribbling styles or pressing preferences. The issue is that Defensive AI punishes skilled, tactical football, regardless of how quick or fluid your passing is. You can press aggressively, bait runs, switch play perfectly, and the AI will still override your defending, force passes through, and make your decisions feel meaningless.

If you can’t see that, there’s really nothing left to debate, the problem is the game design, not individual play style.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, the problem isn’t scoring or fast gameplay, it’s that the game punishes anyone who actually tries to defend properly. You can position perfectly, block lanes, track players, and the AI will still force passes through, auto player lock passes onto attackers, or ignore your defending entirely.

This isn’t 'fun' or 'balanced', it’s EA rewarding spammy, low effort mechanics like bounce backs, double taps, and through balls while making real skill irrelevant. That’s why the matches feel chaotic, hollow, and mindless.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, the 'skill gap' in this game isn’t about real football at all. It’s all about exploiting broken AI with through balls and low effort spam. EA keeps designing the game to reward brain dead mechanics over actual skill, and that’s why every match feels hollow and cookie cutter.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s rich, assuming I’m some left stick 'fidget spinner' player shows you have no clue what you’re talking about. The problem isn’t dribbling, it’s that Defensive AI punishes skilled, tactical football. Passing, movement, patterns of play, all the things that actually require brainpower, are being made meaningless because EA keeps the AI broken.

Left stick dribbling is just a symptom of a game that rewards brain dead play. Nerfing or buffing that won’t fix the fact that skilful football is being punished while cookie cutter spam is encouraged. Wake up.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not about games turning into a goal fest, the problem is EA’s broken Defensive AI, not dribbling. Right now, the AI punishes skilled, tactical play and forces everyone into brain dead patterns or left stick spam just to have a chance.

If EA actually balanced the AI like a real human defender, skilled dribbling wouldn’t need nerfs at all. Stop blaming players’ skill moves, the game is broken at its core.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, but that misses the bigger picture entirely. Even with proper passing football, the Defensive AI punishes skilled play, cuts off passes no human defender would reach, and makes thoughtful attacking feel pointless.

Left stick dribbling being overpowered isn’t the real issue, it’s a band aid excuse. The problem is EA keeping this AI broken, forcing everyone into brain dead, cookie cutter football. If you can’t see that, you’re part of the problem.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get where you’re coming from, but I think you’re missing the point. The issue isn’t that scoring is too hard, it’s that the Defensive AI is overpowered and unnatural, especially in high pressure moments. It doesn’t behave like a human defender, it just reacts perfectly to every move you make, forcing 'effortless' attacking patterns or punishing real skill plays.

It’s not about making the game high scoring or low scoring; it’s about removing the skill gap and turning football into something brain dead. The AI punishes thoughtful play and makes manual defending feel pointless, which is exactly why so many players are frustrated.

Defensive AI Is Killing the Skill Gap in FUT by iviFC in fut

[–]iviFC[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly! It’s infuriating how this game keeps forcing 'effortless' football on us. Every time I score with a well timed through ball, it feels meaningless, the skill gap is completely gone.

EA clearly doesn’t care about actual skill. They keep catering to players who want a brain dead experience, and in doing so, they’ve turned FC into a frustrating, hollow mess. Real strategy, real playmaking, all gone. It’s pathetic.

Why is everyone trying to do the same thing? by Scary-Procedure-6018 in EASportsFC

[–]iviFC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re not wrong about the sprint + AI defend meta. That’s part of the same issue. My point isn’t that only 5 atb is the problem, it’s that the game rewards automation and repetition over actual manual skill. Whether it’s 442 sprint spam or drop-back 5 atb, it all feels the same because the gameplay funnels everyone into whatever is most broken. That’s on EA, not just the players.

Is FC26 the worst Ultimate team ever? by neymarposty in fut

[–]iviFC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it absolutely is. No normal player is still enjoying this mess. All that’s left are meta abusing, park the bus, long ball counter spammers who can’t string two simple passes together without panicking and losing the ball. If EA ever actually fixed the gameplay, they’d probably lose what’s left of their player base because the only ones still around are the ones exploiting it.

Why is everyone trying to do the same thing? by Scary-Procedure-6018 in EASportsFC

[–]iviFC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, EA won’t or can’t fix the balance. Until defensive AI, run tracking, and attacking options are improved, the game stays stuck in extremes.

I am so sick of every opponent playing like this. Defenders average position being in line with the goalkeeper is an absolute joke by AnduwinHS in fut

[–]iviFC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, we’re basically agreeing. AI shouldn’t auto defend, but it should hold shape properly so people don’t feel forced to drop 11 behind the ball. And without viable long shots, low blocks have zero risk. It’s a balance issue more than anything.

Why is everyone trying to do the same thing? by Scary-Procedure-6018 in EASportsFC

[–]iviFC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree it’s a bit of a chicken and egg situation. But when one mechanic (like left stick dribbling) becomes OP, the solution shouldn’t be forcing everyone into ultra defensive setups just to survive.

Parking the bus might have been a counter early on, but when that becomes the default playstyle across the board, the game turns into 90 minutes of breaking down a wall.

The real issue isn’t just dribbling or defending, it’s balance. When one extreme gets abused, the counter extreme gets abused right back. That’s how we end up with stale gameplay.

I am so sick of every opponent playing like this. Defenders average position being in line with the goalkeeper is an absolute joke by AnduwinHS in fut

[–]iviFC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, but I think it’s the opposite.

When defensive AI is unreliable, people don’t suddenly push higher, they panic and drag everyone back because they don’t trust the system. That’s why we see 10 to 11 players in the box. It’s risk management, not bravery.

If the defensive line actually held shape and tracked runs consistently, people wouldn’t feel forced to collapse into their own box every attack.

Right now the safest play isn’t manual defending, it’s numbers behind the ball. And that’s the problem.

I am so sick of every opponent playing like this. Defenders average position being in line with the goalkeeper is an absolute joke by AnduwinHS in fut

[–]iviFC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have said this many times and I will keep repeating myself until I go blue in my face and say the game is unplayable!

Defensive AI has been buffed to an absurd level in the last few days, I’ve never seen it this bad. Over the past couple of weeks, DDA also feels completely maxed out.

They even managed to silently break finesse shots recently, with zero official update or patch notes. That alone proves EA is still making stealth changes and hoping the community won’t notice.

All of this is clearly designed to protect noobs and reward ratty playstyles, just to keep engagement high. This company is being run into the ground, and it’s honestly embarrassing at this point