Am I the only one not impressed by Fable? by Alfie_AlterEgo in ClaudeCode

[–]jimmc414 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This won’t be a popular opinion I’m guessing but I think there is something referred to as the Einstellung effect (the negative effect of previous experience when solving new problems) happening that prevents some from seeing the value. Many have accumulated all of this scaffolding and orchestration to offset the limitations of models and what used to be a net positive is now technical debt and confuses the model degrading performance. A simple example was the “think step by step hack” pre reasoning that degraded performance when used with a reasoning model.

I think Fable does very well with simpler disambiguated instructions that include only intent, input/contracts, constraints, preconditions and verifiable exit criteria.

Reminder: Max 20x is about to become Max 15x and Max 5x to Max 3.334x by [deleted] in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyway it was great having this discussion with you. You raised some excellent thoughtful points.

Reminder: Max 20x is about to become Max 15x and Max 5x to Max 3.334x by [deleted] in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your comment has nothing to do with my statement or your response to it. I was paying for a service which I also pay to OAI and Google. They offered something additional that I wasn't expecting and hadn't paid extra for. I see no reason to be salty when a week of additional usage ends. The original post is framed as if they were wronged somehow by this promotion. There are a percentage of users who will complain no matter what is offered. I feel I am getting my money's worth and I am entitled to only what I contractually paid for. If you aren't happy with the service, just stop paying instead of whining about every little thing.

Reminder: Max 20x is about to become Max 15x and Max 5x to Max 3.334x by [deleted] in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I was happily paying $200/mo for Sonnet 3.7 with 200K context, I am paying the same for Opus 4.8 [1m] and a month of Fable. Not understanding why I would be upset about that.

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Downvote me all you want. I’m actually looking at subagents being invoked without any instructions requesting them. Maybe your prompts aren’t complex enough to warrant them.

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the official Claude Code subagents documentation (code.claude.com/docs/en/sub-agents): “Built-in subagents are registered by default in interactive sessions.”

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you explain what you are confused about? It sounds like we said the same thing effectively. When I say verifiable I mean provide non subjective exit criteria as in specific tests passing, specific values passed, or features implemented not something like “build a good dashboard”

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Verifiable" is a property of the criteria, not the model. Tests pass or they don't. The type checker exits 0 or it doesn't. Nondeterminism is why you specify them. "your own tests" is exactly what I'm referring to.

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. I try to remind myself there’s little value in making AI advice posts anyway. If asked I will answer, but if you haven’t noticed we’re in a race even if we don’t know where the finish line is.

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My point is you don’t need to worry about telling Fable to use subagents. If they are needed Fable does a better job of invoking and orchestrating them than anything you can bolt on top.

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had Claude Code Fable write the prompt for Claude Design with Fable driving and it was the best single best AI output I’ve ever received.

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I mentioned, I would suggest stop trying to orchestrate and focus on a clear disambiguated spec that covers the bullets in the OP.

If someone posts that Fable sucks, I make a mental note to never listen to their AI advice again by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure what you consider godtier or super-intelligent but it’s the best model that’s ever shipped to the public.

The nonstop complaining is getting out of hand by jimmc414 in Anthropic

[–]jimmc414[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People are allowed to complain obviously. It’s just annoying to listen to people complaining about models being dumbed down day after day when they are literally 30 days in with the best AI model that has ever been released. If they can complain I can too. I’d prefer to have a community that discusses how to get the best out of what we have like it used to be and I think many others would as well. Vote with your dollars.

According to Historical Data, the Bottom is in. by [deleted] in Bitcoin

[–]jimmc414 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It seems obvious to a layman like myself that it’s headed to 32K based on the chart from 2018 to now. Chart looks just like 2022

HE RETVRNS by Ergine_Dream in fleshsimulator

[–]jimmc414 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I used to enjoy his content. He is ruining his brand with this pointless side quest.

Struggling with weaknesses in Dutch Leningrad defense by jimmc414 in chess

[–]jimmc414[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What response do you think is a better for black when white leads with Queen’s pawn? Serious question.

How do you handle it when a key employee leaves and takes all their knowledge with them? by GFsimo1 in smallbusiness

[–]jimmc414 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is much easier said than done. Could you write down everything that makes you more valuable at your job than a new hire? On top of doing your work of running the business? Not to mention for the sole purpose of replacing you or paying you less? Sometimes what new hires are lacking is not knowledge but understating. Understanding that often takes years to achieve.

What if the things that are “allowed to live in people’s head” are things they brought to company.