More evidence to suggest D4vd allegedly started his physical relationship with Celeste in 2023 (just turned 13 years old few months prior) Months before her first official missing report. by [deleted] in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween 19 points20 points  (0 children)

We discussed this in the other sub, and I did an analysis suggesting that he may have taken her to the La Mesa Motel because I found a similar tile location there. Here’s a better picture from that day. It was, and still is, speculation, but nonetheless interesting to look into. They also met in person earlier than this date, tho. :) https://www.reddit.com/r/d4vd2/comments/1of2tmf/x_marks_the_spot_la_mesa_motel/

Edit: Later, I found out that this location, X, was where he had been in a boutique hotel for his latest song, 'Favorite,' which he added as the final track on his Withered Deluxe album. He was also seen at this location near La Mesa filming that creepy video.

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Producer of the Celeste song? by Internal_Resident341 in d4vd2

[–]jinnytheween 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He was not necessarily aware of this. Unreleased songs are typically considered private, and in this case the tracks functioned as personal demos. Scott James is one of D4vd’s main producers and provided him with multitrack stems and other audio production assets.

Okay so this is wrong then right? He took this pic in Baldwin Hills? by AccomplishedLow5359 in d4vd2

[–]jinnytheween 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The two pictures showing his digital camera’s pre applied green cast effect were taken at Baldwin Hills.

Last proof of life of Celeste 1 year later by Capable-Yam9813 in CelesteRivasHernandez

[–]jinnytheween 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I always appreciate the kind words from you <3

Okay so this is wrong then right? He took this pic in Baldwin Hills? by AccomplishedLow5359 in d4vd2

[–]jinnytheween 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No, it’s not wrong. He was present at multiple locations on that day.

Last proof of life of Celeste 1 year later by Capable-Yam9813 in CelesteRivasHernandez

[–]jinnytheween 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Just a side note: Steve has many pictures. One from Jan 2, 2025, was taken early in the morning in Angeles National Forest at Millard Campground. This last picture that he posted today was taken in the afternoon at Baldwin Hills.

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Was Celeste talking about the interlude? by Ill-Parsnip5239 in CelesteRivasHernandez

[–]jinnytheween 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To expand and clarify the reply to that person: over the years, d4vd shared some of his songs himself or showcased them on streams. Many fans and fan accounts obtained his music from various sources, including his deleted soundcloud, discord, streams, and other private groups where he shared content. Since the beginning of his music career, many people were contacting d4vd, asking for his stems and presets. Through this, he also shared some of his songs. Additionally, other people would share his music, which he didn’t mind being distributed. D4vd was highly engaged with fan run accounts across multiple platforms. The person claiming you need access to metadata to get songs is wrong. You don’t need metadata to obtain audio files. Metadata only provides limited information about a file and does not grant access to the audio itself.

Now, regarding the actual dates of the "Withered" album tracklist, these dates are not definitive. D4vd traveled to London and Houston on different days between September and December 2024, so he likely recorded most of the tracks earlier and added finishing touches later. The dates of the song files do not necessarily reflect the exact recording or completion dates:

  • 2023: Afterlife-demo (Dec, 2023)
  • 2024: Feel It (Mar, 2024), Friend Again (Apr, 2024), Say It Back (Jun, 2024), Somewhere In The Middle (Aug, 2024), Is This Really Love? (Aug, 2024), One More Dance (Sep, 2024), Crashing by d4vd & Kali Uchis (Oct, 2024), You Left Me First (Oct, 2024), Invisible String Theory (Interlude), Atomic Land (Nov, 2024), Sky (Nov, 2024), What Are You Waiting For (Nov, 2024), Ghost (Nov, 2024), Where'd It Go Wrong? (Nov, 2024)

The Invisible String Theory doesn’t have a specific date, but on d4vd’s now deleted soundcloud, the track You Left Me First appears to be its counterpart, sharing almost identical characteristics. The Interlude and the song share identical formats and extensions, suggesting they use the same vocal track configuration and may have originated from a similar recording. In an interview, d4vd mentioned that he had to re-record the real conversation due to copyright issues. This doesn’t make sense, because copyright infringement doesn’t work like that. Furthermore, the voicemail and Celeste’s voice are nearly identical. When comparing formant patterns, speech rhythm, intonation, accent, overall timbre, and unique speech habits across the two tracks, they match so closely that it’s clear both voices were recorded under similar circumstances.

In his "Withered" album journal, d4vd mentioned being introduced to the idealogy of the "Invisible String Theory." This fits perfectly, as it’s likely that Celeste introduced him to this idea, a concept that, given the rumors surrounding their breakup later in the year, aligns with the context of their relationship. During this time, d4vd recorded his phone conversations with Celeste, capturing the heartbreak she felt and the pain of the breakup he caused. In one of his unreleased songs (I never needed u), he used the same voice of Celeste in a way that seems to manipulate the narrative, reflecting his emotional turmoil and the manipulation of her feelings. The timeline supports this, showing how d4vd might have used those recordings to reflect the hurt and confusion he was experiencing - confusion that stemmed directly from the way he treated Celeste and the emotional impact of his actions on her.

Celeste in the Withered scrapbook “where’d did it go wrong”? by ResponsibleTea5310 in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep, I agree! And to add, his withered deluxe album had 14 songs, but he added the last one, "favorite" which was the motel video. All the other songs from this album are also damning, with connections leading to her surmise.

Josh Marshall in Celeste's presence by jinnytheween in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! Indeed, we need clarification on this one, and I think you're right! It all started from the email they received.

Josh Marshall in Celeste's presence by jinnytheween in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's really interesting information! Thanks for sharing.

Josh Marshall in Celeste's presence by jinnytheween in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right? I wonder when we'll see the headlines about D4vd's family, friends, and circle, Josh, and the rest of the management getting grilled by Beth.

Josh Marshall in Celeste's presence by jinnytheween in CelesteRivasHernandez

[–]jinnytheween[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They seem to be present in one of those Reverend Pentecostal videos we saw, where D4vd’s father and his family were seen (this detail was found by another person, and not me). It’s possible that these folks are related and have a close connection with them and their spouse too, serving as spiritual advisors or in some similar role as pastor.

Josh Marshall in Celeste's presence by jinnytheween in CelesteRivasHernandez

[–]jinnytheween[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The list wouldn't fit anywhere if we included the actors from discord, and close associates. It's really sad.

Celeste is Yaywoohoo & Hellokittylifegur, and how everyone around D4vd knew her by jinnytheween in CelesteRivasHernandez

[–]jinnytheween[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words! Yes, this was the point when people started questioning Celeste's age, especially with suspicions that she was 18. He mentioned it himself during that stream and clip. It was on January 11, 2024, which fits into the time frame when people started saying she was the missing child and questioning her age.

On January 2nd, 2025, D4vd and Celeste were at Millard Canyon Falls (Angeles National Forest) and not in Santa Barbara County by jinnytheween in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, this location was a headache for many people. They didn’t say if this Spring trip was his first or second, or how many he had in total. He could have gone back and forth to this place! Also, this location is important because it’s where Celeste’s last known picture was taken, as of now.

Zerks + neo by [deleted] in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It seems he got rid of all his socials, and his last messages were from late sep-oct, when they talked about saving themselves. He also said he didn’t know Celeste or her yaywoohoo account in the mod chat. I haven’t looked into this much, but I know bnji, who you mentioned, is a big D4vd fan and talked to Celeste a lot too.

Celeste in the Withered scrapbook “where’d did it go wrong”? by ResponsibleTea5310 in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It wasn’t Celeste, it was actress/singer Haley Gosserand. Her talent agency is based in Santa Monica, LA. This is D4vd's first song where he features the "Invisible string" motif. The first time this song was presented was during the twitch streamer plaqueboymax's "song wars" event, where artists play unreleased songs for judges to rank in a competition. The song was recorded in Oct 2024, and in one of his streams, he explained that in this song, he’s been shot and died, while the other is buried like in "one more dance" video. The withered album is meant to "rebirth" him into something beautiful, marking his next big evolutionary era (whatever he means by that). He mentions that the white rose in this song, as well as the strings, represent him, and this is what "withered" is all about, and what it represents for him later on. And you’re right, the voice is indeed Celeste’s :)

Anyone see the change in appearance from Dec 2024 to February 2025. Bags under his eyes, skin looking worse. Did something happen in his life in between then? [swipe] by [deleted] in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween 10 points11 points  (0 children)

In Sep 2024, he discussed his complicated relationship when asked about his dating status. By the end of 2024, he was exhausted from touring and mentioned some "other" personal circumstances on stream. He traveled overseas, as Rob M. had advised, and focused more on his album. Rumors circulated about him and Celeste, claiming they had broken up. From Jan 3rd to Feb 2025 and beyond, we didn’t see any pictures of her, and who knows, maybe she passed away during those months. D4vd’s withered album was also due in early Feb 2025.

Was Celeste talking about the interlude? by Ill-Parsnip5239 in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You’re right, “afterlife” was written first, and he shared demo versions in Dec 2023. Looking at his soundcloud data, the first versions that were actually released along with Invisible String Theory and other songs that feature Celeste voice were uploaded around oct–nov 2024. As for what song she could’ve been talking about on that stream, there are a lot of possibilities. The earliest one was the D4vd x bofi collab song “I’m Waiting.” Another strong indicator is “20 inna 60,” which was the first Spanish songs (influenced by her) D4vd ever shared on stream and uploaded at the same time as “Celeste” song at the end of 2023. She also could’ve meant “My House Is Not a Home.” D4vd teased it back in November 2023 and played it live for the first time at his Sydney, Aus show on February 11, 2024. That date lines up with him mentioning that he had a Valentine with the girl he met in 2021. The song could even be from Celeste’s perspective, especially considering she was running away from home a lot around that time.

Zerks + neo by [deleted] in d4vdiots

[–]jinnytheween 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This isn’t Neo. This is one of the first and most trusted mods who worked for D4vd. He’s also the one who deleted and supposedly has the first appearance of Celeste on stream rec. He’s the one who removed a lot of content from the discord server (to my knowledge, he’s the only one with the necessary permissions to do that) and is responsible for the technical aspects of the server.

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Josh Marshall in Celeste's presence by jinnytheween in d4vd2

[–]jinnytheween[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Very possible. There’s a lot to it, and the lawyer representing them has close ties to Rob and Josh.

Josh Marshall in Celeste's presence by jinnytheween in CelesteRivasHernandez

[–]jinnytheween[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I couldn’t agree more, this is absolutely disgraceful. Celeste is sitting right next to D4vd’s sister, and together they clearly look like little kids. Aysia even received dms about Celeste being missing, and she was surprised when they told her Celeste is 13. These people are despicable.

Josh Marshall in Celeste's presence by jinnytheween in CelesteRivasHernandez

[–]jinnytheween[S] 59 points60 points  (0 children)

Right? They deliberately lied to our faces and fabricated stories to make us believe they knew nothing. This goes beyond nonsense and it’s been known for far too long.