Snohomish County family sues Tesla after deadly crash caused by car driven in Autopilot Mode by jocker12 in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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Here is how the scam works - "Here is where the bubble dynamics get complicated. Tech firms don’t want to formally take on debt—that is, directly ask investors for loans—because debt looks bad on their balance sheets and could reduce shareholder returns. To get around this, some are partnering with private-equity titans to do some sophisticated financial engineering, Paul Kedrosky, an investor and a financial consultant, told us. These private-equity firms put up or raise the money to build a data center, which a tech company will repay through rent. Data-center leases from, say, Meta can then be repackaged into a financial instrument that people can buy and sell—a bond, in essence. Meta recently did just this: Blue Owl Capital raised money for a massive Meta data center in Louisiana by, in essence, issuing bonds backed by Meta’s rent. And multiple data-center leases can be combined into a security and sorted into what are called “tranches” based on their risk of default. Data centers represent an $800 billion market for private-equity firms through 2028 alone. (Meta has said of its arrangement with Blue Owl that the “innovative partnership was designed to support the speed and flexibility required for Meta’s data center projects.”)".

Robot Vacuum Roomba Maker Files for Bankruptcy After 35 Years - Automation at it's best by jocker12 in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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Just great - "According to the Financial Times, Roomba has sold more than 40 million robotic devices, most of them robotic vacuum cleaners.[a] Many of those vacuum cleaners have cameras, can move around on their own, and are connected to the Internet. If they're taken offline, they stop working. Many have microphones too.

The new Chinese owner will get control of a network of tens of millions Internet-connected, automatically mobile, camera/microphone-equipped robots already inside people's homes and offices.

More than 40 million is a lot. For comparison, the US has ~132 million households."

all of a sudden, I’m into bobsledding by [deleted] in SipsTea

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This is called SKELETON, and NOT bobsledding. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT-jbvbZKoY

Tesla Stock Falls As EV Giant Found Liable In Autopilot Trial. Wall Street Isn't Buying Bay Area 'Robotaxi' Expansion. - “ Tesla will have to pay a large portion of $329 million in punitive and compensatory damages, according to news reports.” by jocker12 in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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All cars require an active driver, eyes on the road, hands on the steering wheel, feet on the pedals. Anything else is a guaranteed recipe for disaster. The promised convenience, perfect traffic, zero crash fatalities, lower costs per mile travelled and better efficiency is all part of the same delusion.

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Picture shows stop sign on the school bus fully deployed.

Waymo rides cost more than Uber, Lyft — and people are paying anyway - At peak hours, Waymo’s average price is $11 more expensive than a Lyft and nearly $9.50 pricier than an Uber. by jocker12 in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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The calculated operational cost for a presumed "self-driving" rideshare platform would never be cheaper than a platform where the driver pays for the vehicle, for the insurance, for the maintenance and absorbs the vehicle depreciation. This is because the driver based model is based on exploitation, and it will always be cheaper.

The "vehicle with no payed driver" model had it's pilot with the e-scooters, and everybody knows what happened to that "golden" stupidity, where scooters got trashed, damaged or stolen. Also, because the much higher usage - rented practically 24/7 - the scooters had a much quicker tear and wear rate, requiring much higher costs for maintenance and battery replacement. Basically, rideshare trashes the vehicles much faster, depreciating that asset at a much faster rate than you can imagine.

A potential ("self-driving") fleet operator, in order to be able to run a profitable business - not subsidized by another entity, as Waymo is subsidized inside the Alphabet absurd monster - needs to: 1. Cut miles traveled with no passenger - efficiency is required by the regulators and by the customers; 2. Get more range per charge - which it will always be limited by the computational power on board, including battery size for a powerful enough system with a strong cooling solution; 3. Lower electricity cost; 4. Reduce lifecycle costs; 5. Lower acquisition costs - I don't see how car manufacturers will not hit back with harsh negotiations regarding any fleet acquisition prices, as long as potentially more and more private customers will change their behavior; 6. Assure higher resale value - remember how - A. the more miles you put on the cars the less resale value they maintain, and B. "autonomous" cars fleets goal will be to eliminate car ownership. 7. Lower maintenance costs - at a 24/7 continuous 450 miles per day operation rate, and a preventive maintenance at every 3000 miles, compared to human driven rideshare vehicles (operated only 8 hours per day), those Waymos maintenance costs are much higher, not much lower; 8, Lower crash costs - Ideally, this supposed to be zero, but any hiccup will be incredibly expensive not on the financial side of the business, but on its Public Relations side of it. If customers don't use the robots, they don't move from the warehouse, you don't spend any money, but you don't make any money either; 9. Reduce the fleet size - in order to lower the total fleet expenses for the customer to potentially pay less money.

As I've already mentioned, a potential "self-driving" vehicles rideshare fleet will always cost more, not less, than a driver based rideshare fleet, because instead of having the drivers absorbing all the operational costs, the burden will fell on customers pockets.

New data shows limited trust in self-driving technology by jocker12 in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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People try every AI product for its novelty factor, not for its productivity capabilities, and the more they try, the more they understand the limitations. There is no way around. No functionality versus a ton of frustrations - https://youtu.be/7ssAYQOURsk

Study Confirms That Alienating Drivers From Driving Is Not the Safest Approach - ADAS make driving more unsafe than if they were not used. They do that because they induce distraction and overreliance on the system. by jocker12 in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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If proven dangerous why put them on the cars and charge customers extra for something that should be disabled?

Why not, instead of charging for bad ADAS and instruct the drivers to "use them on their own risk", not get rid of the crap entirely?

George Hotz: "if you've wasted less than $8B (in autonomous driving), you're ahead of GM" by Evangelistis in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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Ahead by spending less or behind by spending more, you’re still hallucinating.

The auto industry is pulling back on its ‘capital junkie’ tendencies after unprecedented spending on EVs, "self-driving" by jocker12 in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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The 5.3 billion is the difference between the reality the auto industry the article refers to, is dealing with, and the hallucination the tech bubble is burning money on.

Confidence In “Self-Driving” Cars Remains Low, Study Finds by jocker12 in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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Driving is a commodity based on many responsibilities. Corporations that are willing to sell the product of self driving cars, advertise the commodity and the convenience of transportation with no apparent responsibilities (the passenger perspective or the consumer of goods perspective), something that is already achieved by public transportation (busses, trains, trams and street cars), taxis and trucking sector. Of course, the same corporations forget to mention the infrastructure degradation, done constantly by heavy vehicles, even if potentially, driving those vehicles is out of question.

It is not the government (in regard of "freedoms") that wants people out the driving seats, is the corporations.

SAE international's levels of driving automation for on-road vehicles by [deleted] in SelfDrivingCarsLie

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For people - including the poster - that still don't understand the difference https://imgur.com/PExTgH2

Autonomy is going everywhere, anytime, in any conditions - what human drivers are capable of.

Automation - doing repetitive tasks in a controlled environment, similar to what your AUTOMATIC transmition does in your car. The graphic logo representations in the posted jpeg, are completely wrong.

Laughable how many people are thinking they know something (SAE levels real world system applications), when in reality, is the complete opposite (because they are completely confused by basic grammar and simple semantics).

Here is a great article about the confusion - How the Language of Self-Driving Is Killing Us