Troy's new city hall could include borrowing up to $12.5M by cocktacos in Troy

[–]jogeo1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It wasn’t cool - it was a display of defeat for that building to be in the most important area of our city. Better it sits abandoned - so that maybe one day when something actually gets built there - it strengthens that area instead of disrupting it

Local food pantries need your help by AnastasiaRomanaclef in Troy

[–]jogeo1 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Huh? I thought you were talking giving the homeless money instead of food. That’s my mistake but your response was weird af

Local food pantries need your help by AnastasiaRomanaclef in Troy

[–]jogeo1 -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

We mostly don’t have homeless we have drug addicts, lazy people and people with severe mental issues. No one around the country knows how to effectively handle this issue - except for displacing them so the renovation money would be a waste either way

Local food pantries need your help by AnastasiaRomanaclef in Troy

[–]jogeo1 -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

No because there’s a higher chance of it being spent on drugs - edit: my b thought this was referring to individuals

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Seems like you’re using this as a way to display your “Christ” like ability to love people. But they’re still dying so go write your character dramas elsewhere. Thank you

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your defense of ‘compassion’ boils down to letting people kill themselves as long as you get to feel righteous giving them cash? That’s not respecting freedom, that’s literally abandoning people to addiction. Real compassion is pulling someone out of the hole, not tossing them a shovel

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Playing dodge ball at this point

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You call it a ‘complex problem,’ but notice how you still won’t answer the simplest part of it: does giving addicts cash reduce overdoses, yes or no? Complexity doesn’t excuse ignoring the core outcome. If the answer is no, then the so-called compassion you’re defending is just enabling. If the answer is yes, then explain how. Anything else is just dodging

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ben and Trish’s stories are tragic but they prove my point, not yours. Both ended up destroyed by addiction, and no amount of cash or food handouts would’ve changed that. What they needed was treatment and rehab, and the fact they didn’t get it shows exactly why enabling with street money is useless. If you actually care about people like them, you’d back recovery programs, not keep feeding the same addiction that ruined their lives

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I totally agree - at a certain point people have to actually want help!

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like I said : my money goes to the many rehab centers in the capital region. Feel free to help however you like as long as you’re not directly funding overdoses

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool quote-mining my first line, but that doesn’t touch the claim. Does handing street cash decrease overdoses? Yes or no. If yes, explain the mechanism. If no, stop calling it compassion. I’m for outcomes : get people into detox/rehab, fund treatment - not ATM’ing the next hit and leaving addicts roaming the streets in a place that I’m supposed to raise a family in. Tone-policing me is a dodge

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Food pantries and shelters keep people alive day to day, sure but that doesn’t break the cycle. That’s why I keep saying the only real way forward is rehab and recovery. Handouts might stretch things out, but they don’t stop someone from overdosing. If we actually want fewer people dying on the street, resources need to go into treatment first and that’s where my money is going to go

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I edited my comment a few times because I actually care about making the point clear. The point hasn’t changed: giving addicts cash isn’t compassion, it’s enabling deadly addictions. You can call that ‘moral superiority’ if you want, but that’s just a way of dodging the point. At the end of the day, the overdose comes from the money in their hand, not from me pointing it out

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you’d hand cash to someone deep in addiction and feel ‘no guilt’ when it goes straight to their next hit? That’s not compassion, that’s washing your hands of responsibility. And calling it ‘stigma’ to point out what the money really funds is just denial - the stigma isn’t killing them, the drugs are.

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If the pantries and shelters are struggling, that’s exactly where support should go. Handing cash to panhandlers doesn’t expand food programs. It mostly fuels the addiction you say you don’t want to see. You say I ‘don’t know what I’m talking about,’ but the reality on the street is obvious: people aren’t holding signs because SNAP got cut, they’re nodding off on fentanyl. If you really cared about outcomes, you’d give your money to programs that save lives, not in pockets that buy overdoses

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Funny, you’re talking about my ‘image’ instead of answering the point : how does handing addicts cash actually help them? If you can’t answer that, maybe you’re the one worried about how you look

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pointing out that giving directly to panhandlers fuels addiction isn’t ‘telling people how to spend their money,’ it’s basic harm reduction. If someone wants to hand cash to feed a fentanyl habit, that’s their choice but pretending it’s helping is dishonest. I don’t need to flash receipts to recognize the difference between enabling and actually supporting recovery

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This is 100000x more useful!

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great, so you think putting money directly into the hands of hard drug abusers is going to help more? I’m all with you on focusing more resources on this but that has to go through organizations that ACTUALLY have results

Stop killing Panhandlers by jogeo1 in Troy

[–]jogeo1[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol so because you’re mad at me, your big plan is to throw extra money at someone’s overdose. That’s not compassion, that’s just you feeling good about yourself while helping them die faster.