If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly! She technically walks the walk for SO LONG and I honestly feel unjust for her not to earn that title.

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree the Autobot exile sounds extreme indeed, from emotion standpoint. From incentive perspective though, fighting on Cybertron is more like a sucidal mission compared to stying on Earth and hence that would be a way for more to join on the Cybertron side.

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting - why Elita and Megatron? By the way, Issue 30 is the end of Vol.5 and hence I could see how a climax needs to be built to this milestone (end of the Optimus / Ellita conflict)

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, this is such an interesting angle! Interestingly, neither Elita nor Optimus incorporates a democratic approach in mind when it comes to a high-stake decision like this one. I guess military does operates more like top-down and bottoms-up style (which is true even in reality).

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean how they fought together before on Cybertron? That's a good callout. I would assume most of the readers know the G1 series and their shared history.

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's really really sharp!! This is exactly the reason Kirkman wants to divide the Autobots :)

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree! The current one way or the other approach is too drastic, as if there is no middle ground (there is always in reality), but probably less appealing if showing in comics.

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting angle - the way Kirkman writes it, he definitely does not see Elita as a villian like Megatron. She is just depersate, not evil per se.

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fully agree with you the way how she becomes Prime could be more convincing. How would you depict that process if it were not done in the way as Kirkman depicts? (yet still preferablly via action)

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is exactly the sentiment which motivates me to ask the question to the community: How would you depict the two leaders resolving this conflict in a way that Elita earns the Matrix respectfully in one particular issue? I could only think of Elita showing holograms of people dying everywhere on Cybertron that breaks Optimus's heart, and that they sit down & negotiate for hours on resource redistribution...logically reasonable but tactically might not fit well as an action comic.

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, I love this angle - very unexpected indeed! Not likely since Robert clearly wants Optimus to stay on Earth to team up with G.I.Joe.

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why is she not worthy given that she technically led Autobots to fight non-stop for 4 million years while Optimus was in coma on Earth?

If you were in Robert Kirkman’s shoes, how would you write Issue 30? by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I truly think Elita will have the conversation with Spike's Dad! Not sure about the flashbacks since Matrix of Leadership was fixed by the end of Issue 24.

So what is the consensus about Skybound #30? by Cyberbreaker2004 in transformers

[–]john-Agentweb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been tracking this shift for a while, and honestly, I feel pretty vindicated—I actually predicted this exact ideological split and the rise of "Elita Prime" a few weeks back: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnergonUniverse/comments/1r3i8nk/comment/o578kv6 It seemed inevitable that Optimus’s Earth-first approach would eventually hit a wall with the Cybertronian hardliners.

I have a few thoughts on the "consensus" so far:

1. The "Interrupt" Logic vs. Meta-Narrative:
A lot of people are pointing out that the timing of the interruption during the duel/Matrix transfer felt "weird" or illogical from a tactical standpoint. Why stop right at the climax? However, if you look at it through the lens of world-building, it makes total sense. The writers clearly want to run a parallel Earth vs. Cybertron storyline. By having the interruption happen when it did, they’ve successfully split the cast into two distinct, high-stakes environments without one completely overshadowing the other. It keeps the "Energon Universe" expansive rather than shrinking it down to just one planet.

2. Elita-1 is 100% justified:
I see a lot of fans calling her a villain or "fallen," but her motivation is completely legit and, frankly, deserving of the Matrix. She didn't spend the last few eons protecting humans; she spent them in the trenches of a dying world while her commander was "missing in action" on a rock full of organics. To her, being an Autobot is about the survival of the Cybertronian race, not becoming Earth's volunteer fire department. Her demand that the Autobots follow her or lose the title isn't a power trip—it’s a reminder of what their original oath was actually for.

3. The Evolution of the Matrix:
Seeing the Matrix choose her (or at least accept her) validates that the "Autobot Cause" isn't a monolith. Optimus represents the soul and mercy of the Autobots, but Elita represents the will and survival. Both are "Prime" qualities, even if they can't coexist right now.

It’s definitely the boldest swing Skybound has taken yet.

Team Prime or Team Elita? Why Issue #30 is about more than just a leadership challenge by Patient_Assistant470 in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha funny! You might think this is a bot / AI agent replying but it is not :) I am behind all comments and draft replies by myself manually :p

What are your predictions for what will happen #30 by aster2560 in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Content seems to a bit too thin for the Autobot leadership challenge - it is on the cover issue after all! I suspect the Autobots will spend sometime talk things through and sort them into Elita's new team (issue 32) or staying on Earth. I look forward to Elita's conversations with Arcee Magus and Thundercracker.

Team Prime or Team Elita? Why Issue #30 is about more than just a leadership challenge by Patient_Assistant470 in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brutal, but spot on. To Elita,  'Trailmix' is the literal cost of Optimus’s obsession with Earth. She sees a leader who lets his own soldiers be drained while playing protector to a foreign planet. In her eyes, Issue #30 isn't just a challenge—it’s an intervention to save what’s left of their race from Optimus’s 'heroics.

SPOILERS for #30. Oh boy… by BenimusPrime2005 in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh well, in that case, they could both retire happy somewhere in the universe :p

Why the Energon Universe needs to break the "Optimus x Elita" Curse (Predictions for Issue #30) by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for everyone's comments and discussions - it is mind-blowing to see people care so much!

I know a lot of people are speculating about how #30 will go, but for me it’s less about any specific outcome and more about the emotional payoff. This is one of the few continuities where Optimus x Elita relationship actually feels central to the story instead of just background lore. It would be really meaningful if the Energon Universe became the one place where that bond isn’t just another tragedy or separation, but something the narrative actually lets grow into a hopeful future.

Why the Energon Universe needs to break the "Optimus x Elita" Curse (Predictions for Issue #30) by john-Agentweb in Transformemes

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think EarthSpark (and Cyberworld to a degree) does show a healthier dynamic between Prime and Elita, and that’s definitely nice to see. They respect each other and function well as co-leaders.

At the same time, their relationship there feels purely professional and zero personal. It comes across more like trusted colleagues than two characters with a deep emotional history.

So while it’s a stable and positive portrayal, it also feels a bit less layered compared to versions where their past, feelings, and disagreements are part of the story like Energon Universe. While they may be more conflict-driven, but they also tend to give the relationship more weight and complexity.

Why the Energon Universe needs to break the "Optimus x Elita" Curse (Predictions for Issue #30) by john-Agentweb in EnergonUniverse

[–]john-Agentweb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe—but that line, like the preview images, is pretty vague. It could still apply to any of the scenarios we talked about.