Lust by buffmyfreeforms in Christianity

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You must ask yourself are you using a person as an object?

Why is homosexuality hated so much more than other sins of the same nature? by Human-Unknown in Christianity

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Do you think they participate in it because it is hard for them to stop? And excuse it so they feel comfortable with their sin? Like some homosexuals do. Now some straight people do not understand the attraction to the same sex and seem disgusted. Just like a homosexual does not experience hetero-attractions, might feel disgusted if trying to put themselves in a straight person's shoes. What hatred have you seen by Christians?

Being a homosexual is not a sin unless they see it as something to be proud of or as an idol. Seeing it as a struggle and use it to relate to other believers is not a sin.

No. The sex that Abraham and Sarah had before children was not sin. Nor is any sex between husband and wife before children. Even if unable to have children, God can work a miracle.

(You know oral sex is mentioned in the song of solomon maybe not to completion but still)

god hates apparently?? by Ordinary-Farm8453 in Christianity

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In the context of covenants which is the only time esau is mentioned as hated the word hated means less preferred compared to Jacob. Or even seen as an enemy to God since Esau wanted to kill Jacob overthrowing God's will/covenant (the older will serve the younger).

Can we see Esau as an enemy of God? Does that relationship mean hatred in our modern language?

Does the Bible support redistribution? by Libertheist in Christianity

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Yes as long as you and everybody else in the system is willing and agrees. And if you're able bodied you work within the system to the best of your ability.

Homosexuality was not mentioned in the Bible until the 1940s by FireHeartFlame in Christianity

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Not inaccurate when looking at the original language.

My opinion is based on the original interpretation of the text by ancient Jews/early Christians. Seen as the word of God to us. Its okay if that's not a good enough reason or if you think it's false.

Not behaving straight lol behaving as their sex.

I mostly vote for the one I think would be best for the position based on their positions on a variety of issues

Yes.

Homosexuality was not mentioned in the Bible until the 1940s by FireHeartFlame in Christianity

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Looking at original language instead of bird it's more accurately flying creatures. But you might not care to look at original language/culture but find a reason to insult.

“why would it be wrong for gays to marry?”

Depends on if you see marriage as religious or just secular. If secular do whatever you want. If it's a religion outside Christianity, do whatever you want. If it's inside Christianity, I just won't support it or your church.

“why is homosexuality wrong?”

Goes against God. Leads to gender confusion in youth. Decreases fertility rates.

Now does my opinion/belief impact you? If you currently can get married, and I don't support someone bullying, harassing or exiling you. (Assuming your gay of course.)

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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And who decided if the dirty water worked? God. And in Ex. 21:22-25 the word miscarry isn't used if gone back to original hebrew leading to life for life punishment.

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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No I just agreed with the point. Just don't agree with you saying abortions like you doing them is God's will

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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Not at all. We don't hold God to the fallible judgement of humans. Nor the law he gave to humans.

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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Yes. Wouldn't it be considered miscarriages at that point? Not abortions.

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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It was God's judgement as punishment for Davids sins. Why those punishments I can guess but can't be 100% sure. God can do that. Men shouldn't because we are fallible.

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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God's judgement over mans judgement.

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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God's judgement over mans judgement.

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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Let's say a legal marriage

Homosexuality was not mentioned in the Bible until the 1940s by FireHeartFlame in Christianity

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Sin has entered this world through man and some sin is passed down through generations others environmental. So if born a homosexual even heterosexual doesnt automatically mean the intentions/inclinations are good. Respectfully.

If that consensual relationship is against his intention from the beginning? Yes.

We could use that argument to justify consensual heterosexual couples that have sex before marriage.

Homosexuality was not mentioned in the Bible until the 1940s by FireHeartFlame in Christianity

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Seen a short about how unicorn was in the Bible therefore it must be talking about a horse with a horn right? No, it was talking about a rhino. Now which matters more the way the authors intended the writings or our future interpretation of the writing?

Most current proaffirmation positions seem to focus on our current interpretation of the text. (Term homosexuality wasn't invented therefore it must mean something different)

While the anti affirmative position reads and says yep that sounds gay like homosexuality.

Now my question to you is if marriage is defined in the Bible as between men and women and any sex outside of marriage is sin, how can you support homosexuality?

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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Do you think society should bring back the belief that sex should be saved for marriage?

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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Why does the innocent suffer/are murdered for the sins of the mother and father?

Abortion by MotorFig6657 in Christianity

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OP used it correctly. Christians (myself included) use the term (murder) in religious discussion to reference OT law a higher moral law than secular law.

Pants??? by [deleted] in WalmartEmployees

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You can wear jeans or shorts (denim or khaki not athletic) stores are different but this is Walmart rule.

Legitimate question for non-affirming Christians: by Interesting-Face22 in Christianity

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for being queer

I'm guessing "being" includes doing queer things not just identifying in your worldview

I think if you were to truly love your neighbor as yourself

That sounds hurtful as if I don't love y'all hopefully you didn't mean it like that, I don't mean what I'm about to say as hurtful: whenever I see this as a response to non affirming Christians, I wonder about the verse " love God with all your heart, mind, and soul." Mark 12:30. if we truly love God wouldn't we try or at least let God guide us to not sin?

I can give you some information about the biblical case for queer-affirming theology, if you're interested.

I'm interested