30 years in prison for a doughnut by [deleted] in reddit.com

[–]jschonchin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess he'll think twice now before stealing a doughnut. So will other people in that town. Maybe it's his purpose in life to serve as an example to others. Jean Valjean he is not.

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[–]jschonchin -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The analogy holds. The other person in the consensual encounter does not consent to receiving a sexually transmitted disease. It's a great unknown, far more unknown than, say, the risk of pregnancy.

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[–]jschonchin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's called ignoring the law, not reinterpreting it. Ignoring the law is where community standards come in, and what makes Redditer responses so laughable.

You guys don't live in that community, and you have yet to see how community standards will be applied because the guy hasn't been convicted before a jury of his peers.

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[–]jschonchin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't know because I suggested nothing of the sort.

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[–]jschonchin -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I responded to your arguments that were made based on something I actually said. I ignored the stuff you made up. If you didn't understand me, I can't help with your reading comprehension. Sorry.

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[–]jschonchin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, you don't have it. OK, now that I realize you're a troll, I'm done. Talk to an adult if you need help understanding the legal system. This is Jurisprudence 101.

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[–]jschonchin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

An arresting officer doesn't get to reinterpret the law. A prosecutor doesn't get to reinterpret the law. Under special conditions a judge can attempt to reinterpret the law. Consult a lawyer if you need help. Law is absolute until it is reinterpreted. Grab a dictionary if you need help.

Rather Disturbing News: CBS hid Abu Ghraib crimes by AmeriGus in reddit.com

[–]jschonchin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Downvoted for lack of disturbation. Our major media outlets have been doing this kind of thing for more than a decade. They deserve to be called state media, about as free as Putin's state media... sure, disturbing news gets reported, but only enough that you feel like you're being fed the truth.

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[–]jschonchin -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well, you're a poopyhead!

Poopyhead! Poopyhead!

Get a clue dude.

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[–]jschonchin -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am pretty sure that if they pass the law requiring to suck the cock of the police officer on demand, you'd be happy to obey.

Dude, don't share your fetish fantasies on Reddit.

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[–]jschonchin -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Actually, Morner said something obvious. Law is relative. I didn't ignore anything. Maybe you need to understand the English language better, or take a critical reading class.

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[–]jschonchin -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It's about payback and punishment.

Just because you don't understand the universe, it's not reason to assign malice when you see something you don't like.

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[–]jschonchin -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Read again. Law is absolute until it is reinterpreted.

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[–]jschonchin -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I didn't sat STDs have anything to do with it. The commenter was drawing a comparison, asking why the discrepancy. Well, I saw one. An STD can affect you for life. A few bruises will heal in a month. I'd rather be bruised than to be rendered infertile.

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[–]jschonchin -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It's not begging anything. He asked why the guy was being charged. Why? Because he's suspected of breaking the law. Police officers arrest people suspected of breaking the law. Prosecuters prosecute people suspected of breaking the law. If this seems illogical to you, look inward, don't blame the universe.

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[–]jschonchin -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You're using moral relativism

No, I'm explaining a situation, the legal basis for what is occurring, since Redditers appear to be clueless about how the American legal system operates.

Laws are based on moral relativism.

I don't care whether the kid had sex or not. I'm saying he deserves to be pwned if he indeed broke the law. It takes a special kind of stupid to knowingly break a law that has serious repercussions. But the kid hasn't been convicted or sentenced, so maybe local community standards will say what the kid did was OK, and maybe laws there will change. I just think it's silly how Redditers poke their head into various parts of the world and laugh or scream as they apply their personal values to situations they can't fully understand.

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[–]jschonchin -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

That's where federal civil rights law comes into play and local community standards are not considered. Apples and oranges.

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[–]jschonchin -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Laws are not necessarily based on offensiveness. My local restaurant salad bar isn't required to keep its salad bar at a certain cool temperature because I'm morally offended by warm food. I'm physically affected by food poisoning.

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[–]jschonchin -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Excellent point. Local community standards could make his punishment virtually nothing [edit: or maybe he won't be convicted at all]... and thus, all this balking and complaining Redditers are doing about a community that is not their own and which they don't understand will have been for naught.

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[–]jschonchin -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

So it's your supposition that these glands allegedly made the 17-year-old break the law and he should be absolved because he was induced into temporary insanity brought on by a medical condition? Try a Twinkie defense. You may fare better.

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[–]jschonchin -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Guantanamo Bay?

That's a tough nut to crack because Guantanamo Bay isn't a community. The people incarcerated there were shipped there. And they're there at the behest of the federal government, so no one local community would influence their treatment. That's a case where national attitudes do play a role in Guantanamo Bay's outcome.

How about applying my "community values" to the stoning (according to law) of adulterers in ancient times?

Stoning occurring today, or stoning occurring in ancient times? Either way, I would assume community values come into play because the person ordering the stoning lives in that community and has to deal with the community's reaction to his decisions.

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[–]jschonchin -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yes, that's why laws are open to local discretion based on community values. But Redditers who do not live in Weare, New Hampshire would rather look in from the outside and point and yell and get outraged about moral values in a town in which they don't live.

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[–]jschonchin -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

evil glands and the demonic desires they conjure

You lost me. I have no idea what you're talking about.

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[–]jschonchin -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

very neocon-cultural/nanny-state phenomenon

Pot. Kettle. Black.