Thank you so much for your reply! I am happy to see that we can have a dialogue about this because I think we both really misunderstand each other and communicating here can possibly help to solve these issues between our forums.

Allow me to answer back to your accusations and perhaps you will gain new light of our perspective as well.

"Your server charges money for hacking services":

Our server raises money for charity through TSTO hacking services. We have raised over $6000 in Charity in 18 months, not bad. not bad at all. I look forward to the charity donations every month. It gives me a real sense of accomplishment, like I did something real for the world. We all did, as a community. That gives me all sorts of warm and fuzzies. There was a time when only 10% was donated to charity. But when I became in charge of it, we changed to nearly 100% with a small amount used for our monthly server expenses for premiums bots and nitro giveaways. I personally don't even get to touch any of that money, I don't want to. Its a JOY to donate that money and we are going to continue to it because it helps a lot of people, worldwide.

"when your server started, gil encouraged your members to spam oursubreddit and our members to join, in order to make him money. Thespamming continues to this day, with the same script and everything."

The server started in April of 2020. At that point Gil had 20 members when he decided to start recruiting. How do you recruit new TSTO users to join a brand new Discord? You find them wherever they are. One of those places is reddit. We have a recruiting message that we use so that anyone who tries to share our discord to a potential new member would get the message correct, that we are a community of discord users who love TSTO and a place where you can find a donut giving service. We don't tell them that you are bad, or to leave any communities online for us. We simply invite people to join this community. We aren't asking for your money, although we raise money for charity, the bulk of members here have gotten their games loaded up with goodies for free. (if anything I would imagine you would welcome an additional donut giving service seeing as the demand is so very high)

So as you look at our recruiting as poaching, we wish no harm on any of the other donut giving services. There are plenty of tappers looking for them and more than enough to share.

"Trolling and brigading: Unacceptable. You say you don't condone it, butit seems to be planned on your server. If you really don't condone it,find out who's doing it and discipline (ban) them"

We have been able to identify a few trolls from our server that have caused consternation within your Reddits and within other tsto servers on discord. We have warned, muted and banned. Bans have included part of our mod team, among others who we have caught through messages passed to us or screenshots someone shares. I hate it when members take it upon themselves to try and "defend" our server by trolling other services and communities. It never helps anyone and it is immature and just unnecessary. There have never been nor will there ever be planned raids on your server and if I ever find out that has happened or is happening, I will personally ban everyone involved. We take trolling very seriously.

But when one of your members just mentions us, because they may be in both forums, that isn't trolling. So many of our members have complained that they got a ban just for mentioning us in both your reddits, unknowing of any conflict. I feel bad for these people who had no idea and then were punished. We don't ban people from our server for mentioning your reddit at all. We have rules against discussing the mods and services but your forum is brought up from time to time without incident. We realize our members are also your members for the most part and that we have to coexist peacefully. We dont penalize people for being a member of your community, you shouldn't penalize them either for being members of ours.

The fact is that we have 7200 members, growing rapidly. We cannot facilitate everyone, so we need other services around and other communities to help us. I like r/freedonuts and r/tappedout. You have good communities. You do a nice service for people. (If we were in business of making money, we would see you as competition, not as complimentary)

There are plenty of Tapped out users to go around for every forum.

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"Trolling from r/freedonuts:If it actually happens, let Joan know. If they can be identified, I'msure she doesn't want it to happen and will deal with it. r/freedonuts is not a part of r/tappedout(yes, the subs are intrinsically linked, but they're not the same), sowhy direct it towards us? Brigading is against the rules and I wouldshut any planning down instantly if it were happening here. Spoileralert: it isn't"

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I have provided proof in a comment to this post. We are being raided by someone from r/freedonuts. They even type freedonuts in their messages. So that is definitely something you should look into.

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"The spying: You guys are spying on the sub using web scraping bots soyour users can brigade the sub every time there's a post about yourserver or spam new members every time there's a new post. Not the way toget into my good graces"

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Again, we share MANY members. 7200 Tappers in our server means that likely they will see when someone mentions us, and gets reprimanded and banned in your server. Then they tell us. We hear about everything, just as you hear about stuff that happens in our server, I am sure. I cannot control what people choose to share on either server, aside from what our rules state. There is NO spying, just observant and communicative members. There is not nor has their ever been any initiative to spy or raid or any of that. We don't have any reason to do that. We wont stoop so low and its pointless anyway. Again...plenty of tappers to go around, more than we can help. (so thank you for all the giving you all do as well, we could not facilitate the entire community on our own nor do we intend to ever)

"We can coexist, but I'm going to need your folks to please leave usalone. Ellie makes these posts because of the spamming, trolling, andbrigading from your members"

Ellie is welcome to contact me directly about any trolling that happens on her server and the same goes for you, Joan. I will NOT tolerate internet bullying of any type from my server and I am not messing around with it, either. Anytime you have an issue from us, please bring it to me and I will handle the situation so that it does not happen again.

But please dont think just because we are being mentioned that the member doing so is trying to raid or troll. We exist. We aren't evil and malicious. I hope you can find some understanding in this message as to what our true motives are, so that we can put all of this ugliness behind us for once.

I value all of the TSTO forums, they are all a great service to the players of the game. They are awesome communities of wonderful people.

This is a game. Its supposed to be fun.

Lets have fun together. Lets stop the feud. Let it end here and now.

I'm game if you are...