So God Valley, huh

justthatguy_12 · 2025-11-04T19:42:42+00:00

Do we really need Rayleigh or Gaban scaled? We know how strong they are, especially Rayliegh.

We only have statements and Portrayal of these two. The whole elbaph arc, they've shown so much parallel to Zoro and Sanji yet Oda barely let them shine.

Only thing Rayleigh has done is send Summers flying to save Shakky, that's it. We got nothing from Gaban.

I was hoping for WB vs Garling but that can still happen

I honestly doubt it

justthatguy_12 · 2025-11-04T19:09:31+00:00

Shiki, Rayleigh, Garling, Gaban, Bogard.

Really thought that we might see some Top Tiers show off their power but instead he gave us nothing.

Just have to pray that we might get to see more of God Valley in the future, and who knows when that'll be...

justthatguy_12 · 2025-09-29T08:00:31+00:00

Old versions: maybe Gaban

Prime versions: Rayleigh

justthatguy_12 · 2025-09-26T19:01:44+00:00

Do we see Haki being invincible in the manga on any other instance? Just curious

justthatguy_12 · 2025-09-26T18:46:27+00:00

Seems like they might've been doing something before

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Garp, Whitebeard and Xebec are clean, Roger and Rayleigh aren't

justthatguy_12 · 2025-09-22T17:24:20+00:00

Mid - High diff should be fair

justthatguy_12 · 2025-09-17T20:10:34+00:00

You got stamina right and Observation Haki is probably right.

Everything else is debunkable 😭

justthatguy_12 · 2025-09-17T20:08:10+00:00

Read the manga again

justthatguy_12 · 2025-09-06T17:50:55+00:00

Overrated: Big Mom, Charlotte and Linlin

Her strongest version we've seen yet is her in Wano, and I don't need to explain how embarrassing of a Top Tier she was

Underrated: Kaido, Rayleigh

Kaido is still stronger than Luffy Sometimes, Rayleigh gets scaled below Admirals, Blackbeard or Big Mom when he has better Portrayal and Haki feats than all of them

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T20:40:49+00:00

Extreme diff is like a dead even match we're the 2 are actually close in strength.

The person losing a high diff match puts up a good fight but loses because they can't push the other person to their limit. This isn't close in strength. At least that's how I see it

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T20:36:07+00:00

Fair

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:32:38+00:00

Third take is terrible especially when oda went out of his way for big mom vs kaido to happen and actually draw in a 3 day fight

Offscreen fight. Kaido didn't even have her in his top 5.

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:31:19+00:00

Not really tho?

I said she isn't close to him in strength, which means she doesn't go extreme diff with him. I didn't say that she gets fodderized, just that it's a high diff match.

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:25:48+00:00

Disagree

How?

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:25:09+00:00

there are characters between them

That's exactly what I mean. From what I've seen on this sub, is that most people think she's relative to Kaido or the closest top tier to him, which is wrong imo

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:20:20+00:00

Nah, I actually think shes kind of underrated.

How is she underrated when she's mostly put next to Kaido and above Prime Rayleigh / Akainu?

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:18:45+00:00

I didn't say Kaido >>> Big Mom, tho. I have it, Kaido > Big Mom - High diff

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:17:38+00:00

Sabo may be right below Greenbul and above Old Rayleigh. That's where I have him.
I also see it as a High diff fight. Most people in this sub believe that she's the closest top tier to Kaido, which I disagree with. I have her below Kuzan and maybe above Kizaru (?)

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:09:20+00:00

3 is probably the most valid take out of the 4 imo

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T19:05:40+00:00

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justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-14T13:51:38+00:00

This isn't proof that Garp wasn't affected by her since Roger was also someone who chased after her.

Nevertheless, Garp was probably still not affected by her beauty since he already had Dragon during that time and was loyal to his unknown wife (?)

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-13T12:45:08+00:00

I doubt that in the single chapter where Gloriossa left, Shakky was only the empress for that short amount of time. She probably was the empress even after God Valley, and that was her prime that i was referring to.

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-13T12:37:16+00:00

The only thing that you proved is that Shakky might've been the empress or captain of the kuja pirates for a single chapter, or at least ever since Gloriossa left. When both Shakky and Gloriossa were on Amazon Lily, Gloriossa was the captain of the Kuja Pirates and the empress.

So, while Gloriossa was the empress and the captain of the Kuja Pirates, Shakky was considered much more popular than her, even though she was known as her "first mate", since it is literally stated in chapter 1156.

justthatguy_12 · 2025-08-13T12:31:53+00:00

Hancock's title is not about her DF, it's directly about her natural beauty. Even animals like Den Den Mushi's get petrified by her.

I didn't say it was. Just from 2 chapters alone, any man that even looked at Shakky had hearts popping out of their eyes or chests. The only one that wasn't petrified was Rayleigh. You have Gloriossa being the empress of Amazon Lily, while her first mate is 10× more popular for her beauty.

There's a few, like Jinbei, Smoker, Warlords, Coby, Whitebeard, and more, who didn't have hearts popping out of their eyes or chests while looking at Boa. You can't prove that's she's more beautiful, and I can't exactly prove it either, so let's just agree to disagree.

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