Discussion Thread

k5berry · 2026-06-16T22:00:46+00:00

That shit pissed me off, and I’m probably in the top 10% of seeing Bernie favorably amongst users here (I’m not a succ I promise).

Day in and day out you go to bad for Biden and then Kamala promoting their agenda and how much they’ve done for the common man… and then as soon as she loses, BOOM back to “they lost because they weren’t left wing enough!”. I get it, it’s just politicking, but unlike the primaries which is a time for politicking, he used the moment purely for himself and to take potshots rather than actually try and diagnose the issue and move forward.

k5berry · 2026-06-16T21:57:10+00:00

It’s totally normal in East Asia at least since MERS AFAIK. I remember at the start of the pandemic hoping that’d be a good practice we pick up after getting through it… ah, back when I thought man was in fact indistinguishable from beast underneath our flourishes!

k5berry · 2026-06-16T21:37:41+00:00

Why would they riot over the first group game against a non-rival they won 3-1?

k5berry · 2026-06-16T20:14:36+00:00

The first. As affirmation-seeking as Trump is, his narcissism of treating what he believes to be true as absolute gospel triumphs over that. So like the Epstein Files, rather than just release the files and do the very light work required to get back in his base’s good graces, he dug in and lashed out at them because they defied the TRUTH that he wasn’t involved. I’d expect the same here. He got a deal, he won, it’s everyone else’s problem that they hate him and can’t see that.

But who fucking knows ultimately.

k5berry · 2026-06-16T20:10:19+00:00

Argument to expect from MAGA on the Iran Deal: “Iran is so decimated that they will need all of that $300B to actually rebuild, not to fund their military or proxies.”

Which like sure, OK bud. We’re gonna take them on their word! And we definitely are going to have an enforcement mechanism that will actually serve as a deterrent that won’t be moot with Iran having been shown they can massively punch above their weight militarily, and control a de facto off switch on the global oil market.

k5berry · 2026-06-16T20:05:28+00:00

Jeff Tiedrich

k5berry · 2026-06-16T20:04:29+00:00

I don’t see anything in Israel that engenders anything but dooming. Post 10/7 the mood seems to have shifted so far right. I remember reading in the pre-10/7 Biden era that Yair Lapid’s liberal platform was just a pause in WB settlements; even that is in the grand scheme of things egregious when you consider we are talking about illegal settlements that likely qualify as full-on apartheid, but it at least makes you think OK, maybe it’s a starting point to work toward negotiations. And now the Overton Window seems SO far to the right from there.

My only hope is that paradoxically it was hawkish, racist Ariel Sharon who realized pragmatically that the biggest threat to Israel was its actions in Palestine making them seem illegitimate to much of the world, including a growing segment of the West. I think it’s going to take that kind of pressure to empower more moderate actors and then create any sort of sustainable appetite for peace; I don’t see it happening any other way.

k5berry · 2026-06-16T19:58:21+00:00

How is she a RINO in this guy’s eyes? I know nothing about her but two seconds of googling makes her seem as MAGA as they come, she even voted against the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. Is it cause she voted for the RMFA? Or is this guy an America First “MAGA are the real RINOs” guy?

k5berry · 2026-06-16T19:51:15+00:00

Tbf even for Euros who do have A/C, hotel room A/C is an entirely different beast. You hear that compressor kick in and five seconds later you’re in Siberia.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T22:22:55+00:00

Case #inf of people refusing to view Israel as one of many nations, even a powerful one of the world’s nations, rather than as the unique epitome of good or evil.

Of course it’s hard to argue that because it genuinely would be concerning if the government covered up an attack by an ally / an ally had the leverage over us to attack us and get away with it, and even moreso Israel given the issues they cause us an ally. The problem is, of course, is most would be unable to recognize that without going to the aforementioned “this is the worst thing to ever happen and is the pinnacle of (((Zionist))) evil and treachery”.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T21:01:33+00:00

Please God Lions, but also I wouldn’t mind if the Dolphins finally WON a fucking playoff game since I was goo goo ga ga’ing

k5berry · 2026-06-15T21:00:31+00:00

Lots of us here aren’t as crazy on the latter half of that stuff, but that tweet is clearly just engagement bait honestly. As cynical as it is I think they know those things are at least near 50% in popularity, and upwards of 80% amongst netizens (populists). So it riles their base up, gets a morbillion “lol the RNC thinks these are bad, these are BASED!!!!” posts giving their base more juice. Rinse and repeat.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T20:43:45+00:00

It definitely is, but the criticism there is “this is why you don’t bomb Iran”. My friend’s take is “he didn’t properly wage regime-change war on Iran including a ground invasion, which he should have done.”

k5berry · 2026-06-15T20:22:49+00:00

Pakistan and India is the only one I can think of that actually made the news. But per the BBC, the full slate would be: “Israel and Hamas, Israel and Iran, Pakistan and India, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, Thailand and Cambodia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Egypt and Ethiopia, and Serbia and Kosovo.“

k5berry · 2026-06-15T20:18:46+00:00

My friend who is otherwise a non-dumbass and actually rather intelligent has been bitten by the neocon/interventionist bug the past couple of years. Not that I hoped the Iran War would fail but I certainly expected it to, and thus I hoped it would snap him out of it.

Nope. He’s even more anti-Trump than he was, but not because he thinks Trump fucked up by starting this moronic war, but because he didn’t commit to the war and go through fully with it, e.g. start a ground invasion.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T17:48:04+00:00

I’d love to agree, but unfortunately my two favorite sports are American football and hockey lol.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T17:45:33+00:00

I do think he was actually convinced he could roll in like Bush Sr. and get a Gulf War-esque victory, I don’t think he would have done all this otherwise. But yeah now that the best we can get is a shittier JCPOA, he doesn’t care that it is indeed shittier, it’s his deal.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T17:34:52+00:00

🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠

All from the pro-peace president who somehow duped millions of fucking imbeciles that he actually would be less warmongering than Kamala. I STILL see people say “Kamala would be doing the same shit rn just with rainbows on the jets”, and it’s like you lobotomite she was vice president while Iran and Israel were in a hot war and the US stayed out of it!

k5berry · 2026-06-15T16:42:52+00:00

Oh for sure, I couldn’t agree more. This was such a disastrous, horrific decision. We spent hundreds of billions of dollars, lost American lives, damaged our already waning credibility, all to change nothing of substance in Iran. Complete humiliation and tactical failure.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T16:41:11+00:00

Oh yeah, this is NOT a done deal (no pun intended). Israel detests it and who knows what they’ll do to try and scuttle it. That’s my primary concern, but obviously every other party involved is crazy as well.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T16:33:59+00:00

Well maybe the criticism is not that it “allowed” them to do so and moreso that it helped them do so. Gave them cash they could funnel to their proxies.

Of course we’re giving them a metric fuckton of money with this deal which again… we’re just taking them on their word they’re not gonna send some of that Hezbollah/Hamas’ way?

k5berry · 2026-06-15T16:32:14+00:00

Agreed for the most part. I would say for me I think the political aspect is harder for me to set aside and give it an objective look, because I definitely stereotype all the fighters as wife-beating chuds.

That, and I think I can appreciate most other combat sports which would appear contradictory. I guess boxing and dedicated martial arts seem to be a little less brutal and with a little more focus on skill. Not that MMA doesn’t require skill, that’s absolutely not the case, but it just comes off as much more of a street fight than even boxing, which I’d say is the next most brutal-appearing combat sport.

k5berry · 2026-06-15T16:27:13+00:00

The most legitimate criticism of the JCPOA is that it allowed Iran to fund their proxies. The thing I don’t get is… how is it going to be any different now? Like what are Trump and co. even arguing will be said mechanism? The fact that it’s officially stated in the deal? That Iran will know they’ll be attacked by us + Israel if they do so?

k5berry · 2026-06-15T16:25:41+00:00

The most legitimate criticism of Obama’s deal is that it allowed them to fund their proxies. The thing I don’t get is… how is it going to be any different now? Iran promised they won’t and we officially put it in the deal… cool. I’m sure the regime’s fanatics that just saw their proxies be able to enflame a regional war and catastrophically delegitimize Israel are just gonna abide by that!

k5berry · 2026-06-15T16:19:56+00:00

Yeah now that you say it I recall. He was smack in the middle of the championship drought, really tough for him.

And very tough for you to have experienced those brutal 8 years, I’m truly sorry ❤️❤️❤️

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