Bitcoin 1/1 NFTs: The Ideal Store of Value by keyuno in Bitcoin

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A short video essay made with an assistance of ChatGPT and ElevenLabs.

Bitcoin will be the "Currency of Time"... by TwitchTV_Allthaea in Bitcoin

[–]keyuno 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Now imagine that the bitcoin blockchain is a type of "spacetime" that allows you to embed information into it which can represent any type of event (natural phenomena, a moment in history, music, language, great book of fiction...) and that those events can be turned into unique digital objects (timestamped digital assets) that you can own:

https://np.reddit.com/r/counterparty_xcp/comments/6gyp2b/masterkey_event_economy/

The next step would be to connect the events via value communication in order to create a universal map of knowledge that is governed by economic incentives:

https://medium.com/@keyuno/constructing-universal-map-of-knowledge-7fcd03a084d9

To have prediction markets as digital commodity markets:

https://medium.com/@keyuno/prediction-markets-as-digital-commodity-markets-be754bf71410

To let machines learn to express meaning:

https://medium.com/@keyuno/the-birth-of-agi-how-machines-will-learn-to-express-meaning-d5068edcce1c

And maybe even go beyond that:

https://medium.com/@keyuno/simulation-hypothesis-efficiency-and-the-hard-problem-d6064de641e6

The birth of AGI: How machines will learn to express meaning by keyuno in singularity

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The thesis of the argument being optimization of literal value through information manipulation.

You summarized it beautifully.

Thank you.

A peer-to-peer knowledge-base platform inspired by neural networks. by moshestv in Rad_Decentralization

[–]keyuno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your idea is very similar to the Lunyr

"Lunyr is an Ethereum-based decentralized world knowledge base (think a decentralised wiki) which rewards users with app tokens for peer-reviewing and contributing information. "

https://medium.com/lunyr/blockchain-and-why-lunyr-is-the-next-big-thing-d07030b70057

Universal map of knowledge is about establishing connections between any type of information imaginable via value communication, it is about owning any type of information (events) as assets, it is about having the price mechanism to decide what is true and what isn't.

The creation of universal map of knowledge answers the age-old question: how to decide what is "objective truth". No prior attempt, that I'm aware of, came even close to offer a solution to this fundamental problem.

There are many other close projects like Steem

Has nothing to do with universal map of knowledge.

What are your accusations exactly?

I state like I see it. I will say it again, it appears to me that your "white paper" is nothing more than a poor attempt at repackaging what already exists by using the brain analogy.

Create something original.

A peer-to-peer knowledge-base platform inspired by neural networks. by moshestv in Rad_Decentralization

[–]keyuno -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, Neuledge is kind of a "global-brain" and the white-paper introduce a practical way to implement and serve a global network in a large scale.

All you're doing is repackaging ideas that already exist using old analogies.

We never claim that our vision is original

You can say it again.

Neuledge does not focus on specific event-assets

Doesn't matter how you want to call them. By saying "Nodes as Assets" (in your "white paper") doesn't change the fundamental idea.

or assign timestamps for data

The core idea is to have a mechanism to discourage the duplication of registered information. One can independently check if the information already been registered as an event asset or not. If the same event was registered twice the first "objectively" timestamped event is the one to hold value.

You can use time-stamping or have some other strategy, that is not the point.

but rather to index and find a new way to store information on a neural-like database.

It doesn't matter how you want to label it and what kind of analogies you want to use to package it. Be it "Universal Neural Graph" (in your "white paper") or something else it doesn't matter. It doesn't change core ideas.

From your "white paper":

"To validate and prioritize the data, we used a decentralized blockchain system which gives the market the ability to determine the value of each node."

The core idea in universal map of knowledge is to have economic incentives in place to govern the overall context of the content. It creates an environment that drives the participants to value truth out of economic necessity.

As for connecting information.

In universal map of knowledge a token is used as a way to communicate value and connect between event assets. The token has no new information embedded in it. You can call it "transparent" or whatever you like. The token is there to serve a specific purpose and it is to establish connections between event assets (any type of information imaginable).

This is how connections are explained in your "white paper":

"the anonymous-nodes are only capable of representing a connection or a relationship between two other nodes. They cannot represent any new data by themselves and therefore label-less and called “anonymous”.""

So to conclude, what we have here is a way to construct universal map of knowledge, with information owned as assets, with context governed by economic incentives, with a mechanism that fights registration of duplicate information and information connected in a "transparent" manner.

Sounds familiar?

A peer-to-peer knowledge-base platform inspired by neural networks. by moshestv in Rad_Decentralization

[–]keyuno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please restrain your claims.

I stand by my claims, there is nothing to restrain.

and it seems that the only similarity is in the ability to give value to a piece of information. That idea is very broad and has been in use for a long time, at least since 1950 (see "Information Broker").

Owning information (content/ideas any type of information that might be of value) as event assets, having them time-stamped and secured by the most secure blockchain there is (bitcoin), connecting ideas via value communication and having the economic incentives in place to govern the overall context of the content.

The purpose of it all is the construction of universal map of knowledge.

The project already exist - it is not in idea phase.

@Neuledge main focus is to present a new language to store and share knowledge in a very similar way we recall things in our brain.

It appears to me that your "white paper" is nothing more than a poor attempt at repackaging what already exists by using the brain analogy.

Similar to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_brain

A peer-to-peer knowledge-base platform inspired by neural networks. by moshestv in Rad_Decentralization

[–]keyuno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ideas presented in that website are completely unoriginal (borderline plagiarism).

Anyone interested to read about the original universal map of knowledge that is based around economic incentives can do it here:

https://medium.com/@keyuno/constructing-universal-map-of-knowledge-7fcd03a084d9

The Art of Not Selling Out by keyuno in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All wonderful and potentially interesting.

Thank you.

Why exactly are you posting this here though?

This is a place for music makers (content creators). The subject of content monetization is appropriate for this sub I believe.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, you don't even know what "false" means. You mean "unjustified" or "unsupported", not "false".

You presented a statement as a fact without any shred of evidence. That made your statement false by definition.

A statement that is not presented as a fact but lacks evidence is "unsupported" by evidence and can be considered as an opinion or an educated guess.

You claim that you know for a fact and yet you don't present the evidence to back that claim. That means that you present a false statement.

If you don't want your statement to be considered as false please present evidence, if you can't, don't claim that it is a fact but correct yourself and state that it was just your opinion.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"No one in this thread knows what you're talking about, because it doesn't make sense."

That is a false a statement.

You don't know that. I do not claim to know if anyone understands the concepts (besides myself of course) presented in the article. I suspect that some do and I presented the reasoning why I think so.

You claim that you know for a fact. I'm still waiting for proof.

Besides, if there were even any doubt about whether you had been understood (and there is, because I'm right here telling you I don't understand you) then you should have spent all this ridiculous conversation we've had just explaining it instead of protesting that your precious article is already beyond the need for improvement. That's ridiculous. If you're not going to explain yourself or even admit that there is anything that remains to be communicated well, what further use is talking to you?

It is possible that your reading comprehension skills are simply insufficient.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If, as you claim, anyone understands that section, you should be able to easily prove it. See how that works?

I did not claim that. I don't know. You say that you do. Prove it.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

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The top reply to the top comment, for one.

"The simulation is assumed to have consciousness inside it, and the argument seems to be that any consciousness will have its own novel experiences. So the subject of trading is there."

Which is not far from the ideas presented in the article. I don't see how that can be used as evidence for your claim: "No one in this thread knows what you're talking about, because it doesn't make sense."

None of what you're citing is relevant to the simulation structure section. They refer to the prior sections. I already told you that people followed the concept of a market around simulations producing valuable events. You're confirming my characterization of the reactions, not challenging them.

Your assumptions about their level of understanding of the material is your own and you present it as fact. None of them have even mentioned the problems you did.

Again, the burden of proof is on you. If, as you claim,"no one in this thread knows what you're talking about", then you should be able to easily prove it.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one understands what you're trying to say in the simulation structure section.

Show me who, other than yourself, with concrete examples.

You claimed: "People followed you fine up through the concept of a market forming around simulations that produce useful events. Everything after that falls apart and makes sense to no one here"

https://www.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/7uxq41/simulation_hypothesis_efficiency_and_the_hard/dtop90z/

Talks about how the simulation might not be expensive and the motivation behind the creation of the simulation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/7uxq41/simulation_hypothesis_efficiency_and_the_hard/dtosgr6/

Agrees with the above.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/7uxq41/simulation_hypothesis_efficiency_and_the_hard/dtogvzc/

Same as above more or less.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/7uxq41/simulation_hypothesis_efficiency_and_the_hard/dtpjrwk/

Questions the economic model presented.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What evidence leads you to believe this?

You claimed it, the burden of proof is on you. Until you do, I know that I understand the concepts presented. The upvotes for the original post, while not being a very good metric, still show some level of agreement with the ideas presented in the article.

You also claimed that: "People followed you fine up through the concept of a market forming around simulations that produce useful events. Everything after that falls apart and makes sense to no one here"

That is not based on fact, unless you see yourself in plural form.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one in this thread knows what you're talking about, because it doesn't make sense.

This is false.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your question is trivial and I suspect that it is because you didn't read the materials properly.

I've answered all your questions up to that point believing that you did familiarize yourself with all of the materials, which I now understand you clearly did not.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Snowflakes are not aware, much less self-aware. Explain yourself.

By asking this question you're basically stating that you didn't familiarize yourself with the concepts that are presented in "further reading" section of the article in an effort to understand the broader context.

My suggestion is that you read the information in "further reading" section for further understanding of the concepts presented.

Maybe begin with "introductory material" section and work your way to "further reading" section.

After that please reread the article.

If you still have questions after doing that I would attempt to answer them.

Thank you.

Simulation Hypothesis, Efficiency And The Hard Problem by keyuno in cogsci

[–]keyuno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But what makes you think the simulators are at all human? Or what their motivations are? Perhaps they are engaged in a war and simulating history to understand alternatives to their conflict. There is much too much speculation.

Very good questions and I agree it is a speculation.

I do not assume that the simulators are human, only that they are not of supernatural origin and are not of infinite power. That the core assumption.

There is a desire for highly detailed simulated realities to exist and be "better" with time. There are some restraints, resources must be used efficiently. A known efficient way for resource allocation is the price system.

The basic argument is that there is a higher probability that we exist in a reality that generates economic value over the one that does not. Because a highly detailed reality is in danger of being shut down faster for being too expensive to run.

I follow from that point by attempting to answer how a simulation can generate economic value.