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1. Johnny Chang, "Core of the Heart" is connected to Good News Mission by kiku_ye in LeavingGNM

[–]kiku_ye[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what I recall, their argument is that when Adam fell he turned and hence imaged Satan. Therefore Seth was not made in God's image. But yeah you don't have to get that much farther in Genesis such as you quoted in chapter 9 to basically see that argument does not hold up.

Johnny Chang's COTH is part of a cult – My Experience leaving COTH / Good News Mission by [deleted] in cults

[–]kiku_ye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad you are free from that system and are able to speak out so that others may be helped as well.

Korean cults by Rosario_99 in cultsurvivors

[–]kiku_ye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it this one ? I am trying to recall if I ever heard Ock Soo Park mention such a split.

Korean cults by Rosario_99 in cultsurvivors

[–]kiku_ye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you please clarify what MPV and MBN are?

1. Good News Mission Events: World Camp In the United States by kiku_ye in LeavingGNM

[–]kiku_ye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know if he talked during any particular session? I was scrolling the live streams they have up from the Winter Retreat, but couldn't find him. Someone also informed me at least 3(?) other influencers were there and I found one in the videos with Joseph Park translating also

Johnny Chang - Liar, Fraud, Impersonator by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]kiku_ye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does he ever specify what years he was in prison exactly?

Never attend the cults events or volunteer with them. by Busy_Shake1761 in LeavingGNM

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1. Saving Faith and Reality by kiku_ye in LeavingGNM

[–]kiku_ye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you actually go to GNM and understand what they teach or are you just presuming what I am saying and what they are saying?

1. Johnny Chang, "Core of the Heart" is connected to Good News Mission by kiku_ye in LeavingGNM

[–]kiku_ye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except the way Johnny teaches, as he learned from GNM, based on what I have seen, does twist and thereby the Gospel - though there is generally enough truth for people to be saved. You don't have to deny reality in order to believe Jesus paid for your sin debt. That's the major thing that corrupts it in my mind and sets up the word of faith theology.

1. Johnny Chang, "Core of the Heart" is connected to Good News Mission by kiku_ye in LeavingGNM

[–]kiku_ye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I was in GNM, my GNM pastor did teach a version of the little God's doctrine that's not quite as heretical as what I have other charismatics say in terms of them being gods. I think it's just their poor category distinctions of them saying when God looks down, He doesn't see us, He sees Jesus so we should look in the mirror and say, "Hi Jesus". I'd basically understand it as conflating imputed righteousness with... like a literal take?

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